https://apnews.com/article/trump-presidential-power-executive-congress-grants-freeze-60fa3a9fabf6328f9aa3c45ed34e2cc3 Just a little over a week into his second term, President Donald Trump took steps to maximize his power, sparking chaos and what critics contend is a constitutional crisis as he challenges the separation of powers that have defined American government for more than 200 years.
The new administration’s most provocative move came this week, as it announced it would temporarily halt federal payments to ensure they complied with Trump’s orders barring diversity programs. The technical-sounding directive had enormous immediate impact before it was blocked by a federal judge, potentially pulling trillions of dollars from police departments, domestic violence shelters, nutrition services and disaster relief programs that rely on federal grants. The administration on Wednesday rescinded the order.
Though the Republican administration denied Medicaid was affected, it acknowledged the online portal allowing states to file for reimbursement from the program was shut down for part of Tuesday in what it insisted was an error.
Legal experts noted the president is explicitly forbidden from cutting off spending for programs that Congress has approved. The U.S. Constitution grants Congress the power to appropriate money and requires the executive to pay it out. A 50-year-old law known as the Impoundment Control Act makes that explicit by prohibiting the president from halting payments on grants or other programs approved by Congress.
“The thing that prevents the president from being an absolute monarch is Congress controls the power of the purse strings,” said Josh Chafetz, a law professor at Georgetown University, adding that even a temporary freeze violates the law. “It’s what guarantees there’s a check on the presidency.”
Democrats and other critics said the move was blatantly unconstitutional.
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“What happened last night is the most direct assault on the authority of Congress, I believe, in the history of the United States,” Sen. Angus King, an independent from Maine, said Tuesday. While some Republicans were critical, most were supportive. “I think he is testing the limits of his power, and I don’t think any of us are surprised by it,” said Sen. Kevin Cramer, a North Dakota Republican who is close with Trump. At first blush, the Trump administration appeared to be following the correct procedures in identifying potential spending cuts, and the Impoundment Control Act outlines a procedure for how they could become permanent, said Rachel Snyderman, a former official at the Office of Management and Budget who is now at the Bipartisan Policy Center. Congress must eventually sign off on any cuts the administration wants to make, Snyderman said, though she noted that no president since Bill Clinton, a Democrat, has been successful in getting that done. Congress did not act on $14 billion in impoundment cuts Trump proposed during his prior term, she said. “We have to see what the next steps are,” Snyderman said. The attempt to halt grants came after Trump, who during the campaign pledged to be “a dictator on day one,” has taken a number of provocative moves to challenge legal constraints on his power. He fired the inspectors general of his Cabinet agencies without giving Congress the warning required by law, declared that there is an immigrant “invasion” despite low numbers of border crossings, is requiring loyalty pledges from new hires, challenged the constitutional guarantee of birthright citizenship and is moving career staff out of key positions at the Department of Justice to ensure his loyalists control investigations and prosecutions. On Tuesday evening, the new administration made its latest move, trying to prune the federal workforce by offering pay until the end of September for those who agree to resign by the end of next week.
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The Trump actions have all led to a cascade of court challenges contending he has overstepped his constitutional bounds. A federal judge in Seattle has already put on hold Trump’s attempt to revoke birthright citizenship, calling it a blatant violation of the nation’s foundational legal document. On Tuesday, nonprofit groups persuaded a federal judge in Washington to put the administration’s spending freeze order on hold until a fuller hearing on Feb. 3. Democratic attorneys general also rushed to court to block the order. New Mexico Attorney General Raul Torrez, a Democrat, said the swiftness of the court action against Trump’s spending freeze demonstrates the “carelessness” of the order. “My hope is that the president, working with Congress, can identify whatever his priorities are and can work through the normal constitutional order that is well established that limits the power of Democratic and Republican presidents,” he said. The grant freeze — administration officials described it as a “pause” — fit with a long-sought goal of some Trump allies, including his nominee to run the Office of Management and Budget, Russell Vought, to challenge the constitutionality of the Impoundment Control Act. They contend the president, as the person in charge of distributing funds, should be able to have some control over how the money goes out. Though there’s little doubt the new administration wanted a court fight over its power to control spending, experts agree that this was likely not the way they hoped to present it. “This is a really sloppy way of doing this,” said Bill Galston, of the Brookings Institution, adding that he thought it was an administration error. “This is just classic Trump. He believes it’s better to be fast and sloppy than slow and precise.”
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In her first press conference, Trump’s new press secretary, Karoline Leavitt, on Tuesday urged organizations that need the grants to call the administration and show how their operations are “in line with the president’s agenda.” “It’s incumbent on this administration to make sure, again, that every penny is accounted for,” Leavitt said. Republican lawmakers largely took the freeze in stride. “This isn’t a huge surprise to me,” said Rep. Dusty Johnson of South Dakota during the House Republican retreat at one of the president’s Florida golf resorts. “Clearly, Donald Trump campaigned in no small part on the idea that the Biden administration was putting out a lot of money that was not consistent with Donald Trump’s values.” But Democrats and others were furious at the move, which seemed designed to undercut congressional authority. “If President Trump wants to change our nation’s laws, he has the right to ask Congress to change them,” Sen. Bernie Sanders, an independent from Vermont, said in a statement. “He does not have the right to violate the United States Constitution. He is not a king.” Chafetz, of Georgetown University, said the lack of pushback from Republican members of Congress was especially alarming because the legislative branch is the one whose powers are most at risk in the latest power play. Even if Trump loses the legal battle, Chafetz said, he and his followers might feel like they’ve won by pushing things to this extreme. “Damaging the institutions they don’t like,” he said, “seems to be their whole theory of governance.”
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Remember when they tried to say Project 2025 was a leftist fantasy?
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>>1380188 Curtis Yarvin has long planned to destroy democracy. Now he has his chance, and he's sure not gonna miss it.
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>>1380188 >Remember when they tried to say Project 2025 was a leftist fantasy? Liar LIAR, US on fire
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If anyone’s wondering how the president is able to freeze so much funding like this when Congress is supposed to have the power of the purse, it’s because Congress shirks so much of this responsibility onto the three letter agencies. So rather than passing a specific bill that says X amount of dollars for this or that purpose, Congress instead passes an omnibus spending bills that instead says X amount of dollars for this department or agency (to be used however they deem necessary). This works for them while they’re in power, but now that Trump is the president and is in control of all the executive agencies and departments, he’s the one holding the keys to those funds now.
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>>1380220 No one was wondering. Trump said he wanted to be a dictator on Day 1 and he lived up to that promise. Doesn't matter if it's legal or not if the President does it, thanks to the ruling of Trump's Supreme Court.
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>>1380376 It does matter, because if people actually want to effect change in their government, then they shouldn’t be ignorant of how it works. And it’s perfectly legal for President Trump to take control of these funds. Congress lawfully passed these funds for the executive branch to use, and now that Trump is in control of the executive branch he lawfully gets to direct those funds however he sees fit. If Congress doesn't like that, maybe they should have had an actual budget and regular order and direct every dollar to specific programs and supplies. Instead of saying some program, like USAID gets $60 billion, spend it how you will, no strings attached.
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Seething pedocrats in this thread. Trump has to stop the hemorrhaging and he should have done more
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>>1380183 >Rubio says that El Salvador can host violent criminals, including US citizens Okay let me guess what comes next on the agenda, Trump declares all his political enemies as violent criminals and puts them in concentration camps in El Salvador or Gitmo. We're really sliding into Nazi Germany 2.0. I know edgelords and shills will reply to this like "WOAW BASED UNF ZASED!!!1!" I'm just disappointed that republicans are destroying this country. To answer the question asked 238 years ago, what do we have, a republic or a monarchy? A republic, that we could not keep.
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>>1380455 >>1380562 The only real thing Trump has done is convince you people to act as apologists as he dismantles a 225 year old institution.
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>>1380704 >Okay let me guess what comes next on the agenda, Trump declares all his political enemies as violent criminals and puts them in concentration camps in El Salvador or Gitmo. He says, not self aware enough to identify that Democruds essentially did this exact thing he is concerned about.
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>>1380704 >I'm just disappointed that republicans are destroying this country. The majority of democrats unironically called the unvaccinated "plague rats", took away their kids and tried to put them in internment camps.
Democrats lost the right to complain a long, long time ago.
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>>1380707 i hope trump sends all the redditors sending death threatrs right now and all the mods that let it happen for so long to el salvador prisons, might seem much but then you remember that trump was already targeted twice and only survived because of luck. Would also be just karma for the political prisoner bullshit democrats put on j6 prisoners.
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>>1380376 You're retarded. He's just using the legal power given to him by the law
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437 Russell Senate Building Washington, DC 20510 (202) 224 4623 This guy wants a few calls to understand what you think about him letting the toddler run amuck
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>>1380724 i wonder what richard russell would think about the orange fascist and the south african faggot in charge of america
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>>1380708 Antivaxxers are unironically, by every definition of the phrase save literal rodents, plague rats though. And their kids shouldn't have to suffer because of their parents stupidity.
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>>1380779 to be fair witouth democrats/usaids funding gain of function research in wuhan which produced covid 19 we wouldnt have had millions die to covid so who are the real plague rats?
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>>1380782 >Still believing actual russian propaganda Anonymous
>>1380784 >noo covid didnt come from the covid research lab in wuhan in the exact same place that the outbreak started and the same lab that got US funding for gain of function covid research (because it is banned in the US itself).. covid actually came from a bat kissing monkey! dont you seee!? alright enough of you go to bed and no more msnbc
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>>1380183 >nooooo the executive cannot control executive spending lol even lmao
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>>1380719 The first guy who tried to smoke trump was literally a right-wing maga chud who wanted to die famous, the second one was an insane person with incomprehensible beliefs.
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>>1380782 WIV had so many concurrent SARS coronavirus projects going on it's actually hard to say if the one the US put a couple mil into had any effect at all. You know there were ones entirely funded by the Chinese military right?
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>>1380715 NTA, who the fuck was running around in 2020 setting fires to small business and killing people like the Kristallnacht 2.0?
Shut the fuck up with your bullshit about Trump = literally Hitler. It's been almost 10 years now. Nobody cares!
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>>1380790 >the second one was an insane person with incomprehensible beliefs Well yeah, that's 60% of Democrats though
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>>1380793 You live in a fantasy land where every major US city is already in the post-apocalypse.
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>>1380779 >Antivaxxers are unironically, by every definition of the phrase save literal rodents, plague rats though. Suck my dick, lab rat. I love how you fucking subhumans pretend to give a fuck about the lives of children now.
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>>1380786 just say you're a retard next time, it's fewer words and it means the same thing.
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>>1380708 If only they had actually done that, but Democrats are pussies.
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>>1380796 Can't answer the question, can you? That's what I thought. Go toss another molotov at a minority-owned bar to fight racism again.
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>>1380800 There's no point in treating your hysteria seriously
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>>1380801 Remember when those right-wing nazis took over chunks of a major city and executed two black teenagers? Oh wait a minute, they weren't right-wing...
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>>1380798 So let me get this straight, USAID was funding virology labs in Wuhan, every single effort to push gender ideology on other countries, AND Bill Kristol's "defending democracy" shilling, violent coups in other countries, AOC and the other "squad" shill actresses, and a bunch of other glownigger shit. And you are pissed its gonna be dismantled? Truly amazing watching the bugs scurry as the rock gets lifted.
Also covid came from the wuhan lab and gain of function was funded by US (USAID and ecohealth/fauci) in wuhan explicitly because the gain of function research is banned in the US itself (for now very obvious reasons). It caused the death of millions. These are the facts that now even all alphabet agency say was the most likely origin of covid, not me just saying that now everyone is saying this was by faaar the most likely cause of covid.. you know lab leak "conspiracy" is now the official answer.
You retard, you insane fucking stupid empty puppet and retard.
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>>1380802 Do you remember the days before you started thinking that videogames were real?
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>>1380805 >t..this sommer of love thing with antifag taking over and then someone shooting people..w..well that never happened!!! aww so sad you are stupid!
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>>1380805 What are you talking about?
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>>1380805 Do you remember the days before when you could make a counter-argument?
Of course not. Trash not worth my time or reply.
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>>1380806 Do these memories still exist when you take your pills?
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>>1380805 He’s not talking about video games, the guy is referencing the CHAZ/CHOP where blm and antifa took over a city block or two and killed people. Did you forget about that?
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>>1380816 >oh no, some leftists took over an ENTIRE city block! >this is LITERALLY the last of us hysteria
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>>1380818 >oh no, Trump is deciding where funds are allocated in the budget! >this is LITERALLY Hitler all over again! hysteria
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>>1380823 Trump sending Elon and his 18-year-old broccolihead sex slaves to loot the treasury is in fact literally hitler
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>>1380823 Please see Article I, Section 8, Clause 1 and Article I, Section 9, Clause 7 of the constitution.
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>>1380818 You’re projecting. It was hysteria when a single crackhead died and your side rioted and killed people over it. It was also hysteria when your side imposed covid lockdowns on everybody longer than we should of. I know you’d like to cover all this up and hide it so that history won’t remember you as tyrants and histrionic faggots, but we won’t let it slide.
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>>1380818 >>1380816 To be fair they took over a good portion of Capitol Hill, it was about 13 square blocks of space at the most densely populated part of the Hill
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>>1380823 >oh no, Trump is trying to obtain absolute power and become a dictator! >this is LITERALLY Hitler all over again! kek
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>>1380825 How about you post it, because I'm too lazy and don't give enough of a fuck to be bothered with this nonsense. Nobody but you believes that Trump is the next Hitler.
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>>1380826 It was hysteria when you tried to overthrow the government because your guy lost.
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>>1380829 K.
>The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; >No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time. You may notice Trump isn't congress and isn't giving letting them have a word in spending.
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>>1380839 I mean, he's kind of right though. It doesn't matter what is in question, it's always illegal when the political party I don't like does it
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>>1380835 You should refer to these posts.
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>>1380839 >NOOOOOOOOO ONLY DEMOCRATS CAN CONTROL SPENDING WHEN REPUBLICANS DO THAT IT'S NAZISM!!!!! Anonymous
>>1380837 Yeah none of these are what Trump's doing right now.
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>>1380841 >uh, actually it's because congress didn't pass a spending bill! And who directed them not to?
We're being couped and half the country doesn't even realize it.
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>>1380847 >Trump halts funding to organizations pushing DEI bullshit >y-you can't do that nazi!!! >Biden halts funding to border security >th-that's different!!! Shut the fuck up faggot.
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>>1380851 You mean the one where he declared an emergency state over and took back the appropriated funds? The way an emergency state is SUPPOSED to be handled?
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>>1380848 What do you mean who directed them not to? Are you suggesting that Trump used his 4D chess mind powers to manipulate Congress into not passing individual spending bills?
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>>1380183 It's going to be another four years of "Trump did a thing and let me tell you why it's the worst thing that's ever happened!" news articles all over again.
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>>1380862 don't forget to service the balls, billionaire cocksleeve
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>>1380862 Oh yeah.
Although it's not helping that Trump is making world leaders fold like lawn chairs. That really pisses off democrats when Trump gets Colombia to accept deported Colombians, or gets Mexico to deploy 10k troops to the American border.
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>>1380871 >"making" world leaders do shit they were already doing so that trump can save face >folding like lawn chairs fell for it again
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>>1380871 The things they were already doing before Trump came in and fucked things up?
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>>1380876 >>1380877 Tell me more how Mexico was keeping cartels from fucking around on our border.
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>>1380879 Those 10k troops were already on the border
Trump caved
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California has been violating the constitution for more than 20 years. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." -James Madison Just as we intended.
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>>1380880 Bullshit, this man knows he is in control of the most powerful nation in the history of man, How do you cave when you have the strongest military to ever exist against a country that can't even handle it's own current problems?
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>>1380886 You should ask the man who just caved to Sheinbaum
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>>1380880 Nobody believes this and the only evidence you retards have ever provided in support of this was some articles saying that Mexico had deployed troops to their southern border.
Even giving you the benefit of the doubt that there were already troops on the border, the Mexican president stated they were deploying troops. She did not say there would be 10,000 troops at the border, she said they would be deploying 10,000 troops. So regardless of whatever the original number is you want to imagine that being, there's now 10,000 more.
I'm sorry but you lost. You really should just deal with the l rather than coming up with a bunch of lies and huffing canisters of copium
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>>1380888 Trump threatened to increase the tariffs to %50 if they didn't comply, sure as shit they complied.I don't think Trump caved.
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>>1380896 >please say you'll do this thing you were already doing so I don't have to go through with this obviously retarded policy fell for it again
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>>1380895 Everyone believes it and no one believes habitual liar Trump.
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>>1380899 >we already doing so so.. you know.. then why didnt they actually do it you fucking retard
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>>1380901 Except they were
This is the textbook definition of saving face and you once again fell for it
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>>1380900 Kek. Well, I'm glad you and the 'cord are so easily gaslit
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>>1380900 Tel me some of the "many things" Trump lied about.
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>>1380911 that would take a while
>Donald Trump has made tens of thousands of false or misleading claims, including during his first and second terms as President of the United States. Fact-checkers at The Washington Post documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during his presidential term, an average of about 21 per day.[1][5][6][7] The Toronto Star tallied 5,276 false claims from January 2017 to June 2019, an average of six per day Anonymous
>>1380911 He said he was gonna bring down the price of groceries and they've only gone up.
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>>1380906 nope they literally werent you fucking retard you can literally see it in the border crossing stats which jumped and never went down after trump lost relection you illiterate troglodyte
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>>1380917 There was a pandemic you moron
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>>1380915 actually eggs the funny example shat out everyhwere have gone down by 20% over the last week but ok its the one thing you have left so meh
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>>1380918 not during the entire term of biden you illiterate troglodyte and not now you illiterated absolute troglodyte
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>>1380915 Nigga, It's been 15 days since he was inaugurated. THINGS TAKE TIME. There is also no guarantee that he would bring prices down, only being able to stop their rise.
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>>1380913 Bro is lying through his teeth rn so he can't even do the justice of naming one lie.
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>>1380920 Bro, the pandemic ran through 2020 and 2021, when Biden was in office.
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>>1380921 >>1380922 did someone tell you this is how americans talk
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>>1380921 He said he was going to bring them down day 1
>There is also no guarantee that he would bring prices down, only being able to stop their rise. >"When I win, I will immediately bring prices down, starting on Day One" So was he lying?
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>>1380924 The first amendment: the right to offend.
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Trump has also repeatedly claimed that he won the 2020 election despite that having been proven false numerous times.
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the namefag is resorting to nonsense
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>>1380925 Well, I would call that an overestimate of capabilities.
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>>1380930 You're moving the goalposts. He claimed he would do a specific thing at a specific time, and then decided not to do that. In fact, placing tariffs on all of our trading partners will only increase the prices of many groceries, and already your MAGA buddies are coping that Americans will love paying a premium for America-sourced groceries.
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>>1380928 And who proved him wrong?
After all if you look the total amount of votes each year from the election of Obama to the second term of Trump you will se a massive spike in total votes during the 2020 Biden election.
"Bro, they didn't cheat."
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Congressional Democrats have the good sense to stay the hell out of the way. They are doing nothing other than a few tweets and talk show soundbites. Nothing in the legislative branch is stopping Trump and nothing will. All they are concerned about it their pensions. This is a wake-up call to all "progressives". Your vote means nothing. The people you vote for do nothing.
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>>1380931 Did he chose not to do it or was he incapable of immediately and drastically altering an economy?
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>>1380934 In what way do tariffs function to lower grocery prices?
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>>1380939 They don't. They get get other countries to man the fuck up. They get countries actually do what they need to. You're so worried about grocery prices; why don't you become president and fix this mess yourself. So yeah, maybe he did lie. But unlike most of your democrat pussy candidates, he actually takes action and gets shit done.
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>>1380939 Tariff dollars could be used in lieu of sales taxes making groceries cheaper.
Additionally if enough tariff money is collected those dollars could be used to subsidize groceries specifically.
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>>1380945 >Tariff dollars could be used in lieu of sales taxes making groceries cheaper. Retard the counter tariffs are gonna make those groceries cost more than sales tax ever will.
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>>1380939 Tariffs are meant as a negotiating tool with other nations and a way to put pressure on corporations to move manufacturing back to the US. Trump’s plans on lowering grocery prices primarily involve removing retarded environmental regulations so we can start ramping oil production in this country which will then bring gas prices down and make it cheaper to produce groceries. Where did you hear that Trumps plan is to use tariffs to directly lower grocery prices?
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>>1380948 >will then bring gas prices down and make it cheaper to produce groceries What the fuck is this logic lol? Gas price isn't going to make groceries any cheaper. hell the fact he's deporting the main source of farm labor (migrants) is gonna make production more expensive.
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>>1380946 You hate things happening; become president. Fix this shit.
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>>1380949 I suppose I should have said oil rather than gas. Oil is used in almost every facet of our modern agriculture, and if you get that down then you can make cheaper food.
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>>1380949 >Gas price isn't going to make groceries any cheaper. >gas prices go up under Biden >cost to harvest goes up >cost to transport goes up >price of produce goes up to offset the cost Gee I wonder if there's a connection.
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>>1380944 Yet the question is about Trump's promise to lower grocery prices "Day One." Tariffs objectively do the opposite of that, so why would Trump not only not do what he promised, but do something that actively goes against that promise?
>You're so worried about grocery prices; why don't you become president and fix this mess yourself. You're the one who asked for an example of Trump lying. Don't back out now that you've been caught in a corner.
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>>1380954 Unfortunately the lack of imports and workforce are gonna counterbalance the fuck out of any gas decrease... if we get that.
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>>1380955 You but fuck, illiterate, vapid, ass wipe, retard, I FUCKING DID ADMIT THAT HE MAY HAVE LIED, YOU ARE AVOIDING THE ENTIRE GODAMN POINT!
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>>1380951 Trump promised to fix the price of groceries and he does the opposite. I'm sure if you keep posting he'll fuck you one day.
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>>1380957 I accept your concession.
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>>1380960 Damn, you lost so hard that you are resorting to Democratic Party tactics and quit fighting with some amount of logic and just twist your aponant's words to make it look like you won.
Face it, you're a leftist pussy who dosn't have the balls to actually do anything or accept the fact that for once in your life that you can be wrong. You are not George Orwell, that is not how actual problems in society are dealt with or solved. Have some damn balls and become a politician.
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>>1380961 >stating facts is "Democrat Party tactics" now lmao
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>>1380956 Nigga, we ain’t importing eggs. Sure there are some things that can only be imported, but those imports aren’t the foundational base of a stable food supply. The most used day to day foods that we want cheaper are things that are made domestically. All the basic staples you might imagine (potatoes, eggs, wheat, milk, corn, beef, poultry, pork, etc).
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>>1380960 "Win is a win" type nigga
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>>1380964 >Nigga, we ain’t importing eggs. Uh, about that anon... Remember that whole avian flu going around? The one we're having trouble responding to now that the NIH, CDC, and FDA are all effectively frozen?
>The most used day to day foods that we want cheaper are things that are made domestically. Except when we're short on farmhands and field workers, parts for farming equipment and imported materials are getting more expensive, and alternatives are going up in price massively, suddenly those are getting expensive too.
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>>1380967 I don't click on random links,
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>>1380970 Good thing it's the official USDA government list of imported food items then and not a random link.
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>>1380971 Good thing I don't have 13 computer viruses from clicking on the "hot single moms in your area" adds like you.
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>>1380972 Bad thing that you choose to ignore what the US actually imports and continue to argue based on your weird headcanon about how "foods we want cheaper are things that are made domestically".
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>>1380967 Have you looked at your link? We import nearly no eggs compared to our overall consumption. $16m in eggs for the entire county are imported.
For fucks sake, 4m of that is from China so it's probably duck and quail egg.
The remaining 13m is pretty much all china.
Bro, if we put 100% tariff on 13 million worth of eggs, that translates to something like 20 cents for every American over the course of a year
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>>1380974 Eggs are a food among thousands of food, correct.
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>>1380974 >The remaining 13m is pretty much all china I'm sorry I meant Canada
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>>1380973 I'm not ignoring it, I just don't want viruses.
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>>1380975 I wasn't even involved in this conversation until now, but any sort of price increase on imported eggs is going to make literally zero difference to any American, unless if you eat some sort of strange egg like quail or duck
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>>1380981 If anyone eats those regularly, they need to be shot.
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>>1380971 And what percentage of the food is imported? The numbers I’m able to find say it’s about 12-15% of the food is imported. Posting a link to a report of imports and saying “see you do import your food!” doesn’t prove anything. I know we import food, now how does that break down? Most of the food is still domestically made. You’re hyperfocused on the price of imports, but if you really want to lower grocery costs you’d focus on the bigger chunk of the pie graph.
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>>1380976 And the filthy Canadian fucks have infamously ridiculous tariffs on Dairy and eggs from the US.
They don't deserve access to US consumers.
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>>1380961 >show me one lie that Trump told >here's a lie that Trump told >WHY ARE YOU TWISTING MY WORDS Also hilarious that you demand I admit that I'm wrong when you literally admit that I was right
>>1380957 >I FUCKING DID ADMIT THAT HE MAY HAVE LIED Anonymous
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>>1380988 Yes. My main point was that you couldn't do much better; the fact that you don't actually do anything about the things you care about.
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>>1380969 All this butthurt over loosing your slaves again, huh? Why don’t you just pay American workers a fair living wage?
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>>1380990 And I'm not the president of the United States of America. Trump is. The argument was whether Trump had demonstrably lied or not, and I proved that he did. Feel free to cope, seethe and dilate, in any order.
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>>1380995 I am aware that he is the current president and that he lied. I make the argument that you can't do better.
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>>1380998 I mean, I probably wouldn't needlessly antagonize our closest allies out of a delusional belief that the entire world owes us rent, but yes, being the President of the United States is hard. If its too hard for Trump, then he shouldn't have ran. He's the president, so I, an American citizen, am well within my rights to judge his performance. There are no participation trophies.
Anonymous
>>1380969 It’s nice that you libtards suddenly care about the price of eggs—it’s genuine progress for you–but we're two weeks in, retards. Your brat queen wouldn't have made it any different. It takes about 19-25 weeks for new chickens to mature and start laying eggs. Then all of the chickens lost to bird flu will have been replaced. Just have a little patience and the price of eggs will stabilize. Please make your critiques less facile and childish, thanks.
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>>1381000 Trump said "Day One." We're well past that, and prices have ony gone up. Why did Trump lie to you?
John Hancock
>>1380999 You are also aren't doing dick to stop anything bad from happening. Write letters to congressmen and state representatives, they will do something. We both live in the same country, we need to fix it together. This stupid online arguing solves nothing unless, we the people, do something.
Trump can only handle one problem at a time. Trump also had a first term, he knew damn well what he was getting into when he ran for office a second time. He has a plan John.
Anonymous
>>1381008 The tooth fairy doesn't exist anon, and writing letters to your elected representatives doesn't do anything
>he knew damn well what he was getting into when he ran for office a second time Staying out of prison?
John Hancock
>>1381012 Then become a political figure, do what these people won't, their job.
Anonymous
>>1381014 >you can only criticize politicians if you're a politician yourself! Immature, bootlicking ideology
Anonymous
>>1381012 Maybe you shouldn't have charged him with 90 fake felonies and tried to kill him twice
John Hancock
>>1381015 No, he actually has a good point,
Anonymous
>>1381017 You forgot to stop namefagging
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>>1381018 What doses that even MEAN?
Anonymous
>>1381016 The first guy who tried to kill him was a MAGA chud, the second guy was just crazy and didn't even get close to succeeding. It's telling that the right stopped talking about the assassination attempts real fast as it became clear that they couldn't believably pin it on the left.
Anonymous
>>1381020 And you're still repeating those same lies. Are you planning to cope the whole four years?
John Hancock
>>1381020 How can you support an organization and try to kill it's leader? That's not a thing any mentallhy stable person would do or thinck is sound logic. The Left got into his head.
Anonymous
>>1381020 >the first guy was a maga chud voting democrat your entire life and then changing it to republican just before trying to kill a republican presidential candiate doesnt make him republican
So nope, he was a lifelong democrat only voter and changed that only before the assassination attempt exactly to give people like you the excuse they need to lie about his political allegiance and to run defense which you now have knowingly and willingly done like the piece of shit you are
Anonymous
>>1381030 Because he wasn't motivated by ideology and was more akin to a school shooter, he wanted to die famous.
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>>1381032 And ended up dying people thinking he was trans.
Anonymous
>>1381031 He was only eligible to vote in one election you absolute brainlet. The guy was like 19.
John Hancock
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>>1381034 You just can't pursuade this man, I'm taking a nap.
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>>1381027 None of those statements were lies.
Anonymous
>>1380840 >it's always illegal when the political party I don't like does it No, it's just always illegal. But we're talking about the fact that it's happening right now.
Anonymous
>>1381039 weird how you're comparing Obama and Biden denying energy subsidies to defunding the entire government
Anonymous
>>1381048 Trump hasn't done anything illegal.
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>>1381060 That's debatable.
Anonymous
The schizos REALLY don't like this?
Anonymous
>>1381068 >destroys the country to own the libs >doesn't actually own the libs are you winning yet?
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I voted for President Trump, not President Musk. What's going on?
Anonymous
>>1381020 The first shooter was a leftist nutjob, and you’re forgetting how during the primaries there was an effort by Democrat activists to rob Trump of the Republican nomination by switching parties to vote in their primaries. That’s likely why his supposed party affiliation said Republican while everything else about his life and social media presence screamed liberal-progressive. Because he was part of that effort to stop Trump at the primaries. And when that failed, he took it a step further because you people keep on saying that Trump is the second coming of Hitler who needs to be stopped at all costs.
Anonymous
>>1381084 Not him but thank god Trump has you here to correct the record back to the official government line. Otherwise those pesky bluesky liberals would control the narrative.
Anonymous
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>>1381084 Guy was literally known by his classmates as a MAGA chud outcast, its clear that your desperate wishcasting has failed because Republicans and Trump don't even mention this supposed Democratic assassination plot anymore.
Anonymous
>>1381060 Sending in Elon and his army of Thiel's catamites to strip the federal government for parts is incredibly illegal and arguably more of a coup attempt than 1/6 was.
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>>1381138 nope literally two conflicting reports one say he was a democrat others say maga everything in his life say he was a democrat but you needed him to be maga so you did the typical and lied
Anonymous
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>>1381139 no it isnt illegal sorry that you are stupid and swallow lies