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Woman held by ICE for 25 days, despite citizenship claim, gets a U.S. passport

Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2026 17:04:47 No.1517857 View View Reply Original Report

>Attorneys for Dulce Consuelo Diaz Morales had presented a Maryland birth certificate and other documents as proof of her U.S. citizenship.

https://archive.is/2026.06.02-103654/https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2026/06/02/woman-held-by-ice-25-days-despite-us-citizenship-claim-gets-passport/

>The Maryland woman arrested by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents in December and held for 25 days despite offering proof of citizenship has been issued a U.S. passport and removal proceedings against her in immigration court have been halted, her lawyers said in a statement Monday.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2026 17:43:55 No.1517870 Report

Quoted By: >>1517884 >>1518178

>>1517857
>Morales
Doesn't sound very American to me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2026 18:58:31 No.1517884 Report

Quoted By:

>>1517870
Scotus will overturn birthright citizenship soon, don't worry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2026 19:00:27 No.1517886 Report

Quoted By: >>1518061

To date over 10000 us citizens have been deported or held in detention. This is a scare tactic to get Latinx to flee the country

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2026 19:02:12 No.1517887 Report

Quoted By: >>1517888 >>1517904

Republicans really don't want the Latino vote do they? That sucks because now they lost out on two of the largest interest groups in this country, and the one currently growing the fastest.

Their time is coming to a close and that's why they are so desperate to end voting rights and ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2026 19:04:03 No.1517888 Report

Quoted By: >>1518003

>>1517887
>Republicans really don't want the Latino vote do they?
Republicans are Nazis scumbagsm. This land belongs to chicano and there should be no restrictions on Chicanos. It should be white and black people that have to leave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2026 19:15:21 No.1517893 Report

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I bet racist Republicans would probably lone up to fuck her just because she has a birth pussy and not even pay attention to the fact that she is Latinx, the racist hypocrites

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2026 20:29:22 No.1517904 Report

Quoted By: >>1518027

>>1517887
>Republicans really don't want the Latino vote do they?
Right, just like they don't want the poor vote by cutting social programs. Bitch, how badly Republicans abuse a community has no bearing on how stupid that community is and all Republicans care about is the stupid vote.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 15:52:04 No.1518003 Report

Quoted By:

>>1517888
This is the post of an anon who is chronically online.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 19:17:13 No.1518027 Report

Quoted By: >>1518047 >>1518146

>>1517904
Remember: taxes are passed to the consumer.
Therefore social programs rob the poor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 20:56:30 No.1518047 Report

Quoted By: >>1518062 >>1518071

>>1518027
1. We pay for our social programs with debt, not taxes. (debt also robs the poor, but that's why functional countries offset that shit with social programs as opposed to wars in the Middle East)
2. Taxes only get passed onto the consumer when you tax economic activity, which is why shit like sales taxes and tariffs are bad.
3.
>actually arguing against social programs
4. Republicans are for regressive tax systems literally designed to rob the poor

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 21:26:09 No.1518061 Report

Quoted By:

>>1517886
>Latinx

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 21:27:10 No.1518062 Report

Quoted By: >>1518063 >>1518064

>>1518047
>4. Republicans are for regressive tax systems literally designed to rob the poor
Please elaborate. Explain how lowering taxes for everyone robs the poor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 21:35:12 No.1518063 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518062
do your own homework esl shill

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 21:51:52 No.1518064 Report

Quoted By: >>1518065

>>1518062
>Explain how lowering taxes for everyone robs the poor.
I explained in point 1. Learn2read.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 21:58:04 No.1518065 Report

Quoted By: >>1518066 >>1518068 >>1518070

>>1518064
It doesn't explain shit. You just made a bullshit claim about debt robbing the poor. How? Just because you don't get free healthcare or education does not = being robbed. Those are benefits, not rights.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 22:13:13 No.1518066 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518065
whether you're pretending to be retarded or you're actually retarded, you lose either way

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 22:27:14 No.1518068 Report

Quoted By: >>1518069 >>1518105

>>1518065
If I stood outside your house and said you owed me $500 a month or else something bad would happen to you, what would you call that?
Cuz anywhere else that’s extortion, but here we call it “health insurance”

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 22:31:07 No.1518069 Report

Quoted By: >>1518072

>>1518068
Nobody is going to put you in jail for refusing to pay for health insurance.
The government will put you in jail for refusing to pay taxes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 22:36:05 No.1518070 Report

Quoted By: >>1518105

>>1518065
>How?
Let me try and put this in terms you might understand. You have one Charizard card. It's worth $100. The Pokemon Company then prints 99 more. That card is now worth $1. Inflation reduces relative purchasing power. Paying off debt via printing drives inflation. Therefore debt reduces relative purchasing power. The government taking on debt reduces people's wealth.

>Those are benefits, not rights.
You can still rob someone by taking away their benefits. If I stole your identity and got access to your social security payments, you'd still fucking call that theft, even though you don't have a right to that money, dumbass boomer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 22:36:59 No.1518071 Report

Quoted By: >>1518074 >>1518078

>>1518047
Taxes apply nearly explicitly to economic activity though. So, you're saying you agree, I guess?
What you've failed to realize is that we're a society of consumers. So, income tax, social security, tariffs, property taxes, and nearly all taxes are passed to the consumer, which is like 95% of the population.
This is why raising taxes, as seen on the coasts, does nothing but cause inflation and higher cost of living.
Sorry if this is higher order thinking than you're used to.
In summary, I'd be all for taxing the rich, if I wasn't paying their taxes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 22:38:38 No.1518072 Report

Quoted By: >>1518073 >>1518231

>>1518069
If you don’t have health insurance, you figure out the wonders of having to dig yourself out of being 30k in medical debt if you ever break a bone or your appendix bursts

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 22:40:05 No.1518073 Report

Quoted By: >>1518075 >>1518076

>>1518072
Why wouldn't you have health insurance?
You'd have to be the laziest fucking hobo unwilling to fill out paperwork not to have it in the US.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 22:40:39 No.1518074 Report

Quoted By: >>1518077

>>1518071
>Taxes apply nearly explicitly to economic activity though.
Sure, setting aside death taxes, property taxes, wealth taxes, capital gains taxes, income taxes, gift taxes, taxes on gambling winnings, etc. Dumbass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 22:41:41 No.1518075 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518073
It costs $400/month for a healthy young man to have health insurance in the US.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 22:44:07 No.1518076 Report

Quoted By: >>1518079

>>1518073
It really is amazing how strongly right wingers associate poverty with moral failings and wealth with moral virtues despite how few of them are well-off.

Genuinely an ideology built on self-hatred. It's why they're always voting against their own interests.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 22:45:33 No.1518077 Report

Quoted By: >>1518082

>>1518074
>Income tax isn't related to economic activity
>Capital gains. Stonks aren't economic activity.
OK we've got a tard here.There's no convicing someone so retarded that they believe that income tax (tax on our work) isn't related to economic activity.
Property taxes are as well, since renters pay proPerty taxes.
The problem is you think in one fucking dimension and it comes to greed and jealousy. And you're too fucking stupid to think through the rest. You can't fix stupid, so I give.
You win from being an asinine brickwall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 22:46:50 No.1518078 Report

Quoted By: >>1518080

>>1518071
>income tax i passed on to the consumer
Ah yes, I totally offset the taxes I paid on my income by passing it on to my employer. I just upped my pay to cover that shit.

Are you mentally ill?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 22:48:32 No.1518079 Report

Quoted By: >>1518081 >>1518085

>>1518076
Indeed. That's why right wingers created the term "socioeconomic factors" to explain away bad behavior.
What jerks.
Has conversing with liggerals ever gone as expected? You're all atheist poopdicked logicians, except when it comes to actually having to think.
Liggeralism is a cult of mantric repetition resistant to attack by logic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 22:50:55 No.1518080 Report

Quoted By: >>1518085 >>1518087

>>1518078
>Ah yes, I totally offset the taxes I paid on my income by passing it on to my employer. I just upped my pay to cover that shit.
Jobs aren't economic activity, huh?
Income tax isn't robbing the workers?
Interesting thought. Perhaps you're trying to hard to cope here so you're twisting words to resist how wrong you could be?
You've attacked one point, so I'll assume you agree with the rest of what I've said, and you're fine with passing taxes on to poor consumers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:01:08 No.1518081 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518079
you sure love embarrassing yourself, forced meme shill anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:04:54 No.1518082 Report

Quoted By: >>1518086 >>1518090

>>1518077
>Income tax isn't related to economic activity
Not directly, no, unless you're expanding economic activity to mean all movement of money which is obviously not what I meant since I included fucking tariffs.

Allow me to rephrase the claim, since you're mentally ill. Taxes only get passed onto the consumer when leveraged on someone setting a price for a good or service as a part of conduct involved in the immediate exchange of a good or service such that the tax can be both be tied to a specific exchange and be dependent on the scale of the exchange.

Income taxes just look at your fucking income, not what you did to get that income if anything. They are not a direct tax on economic activity cause nothing requires that income be connected to the fucking economy. The movement of money and the movement of goods and services are not the same thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:10:52 No.1518085 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518080
>Jobs aren't economic activity, huh?
Definitionally no. Providing work for someone else is economic activity. Having a job is not the same thing as doing work for someone else. Plenty of people are self-employed and plenty of jobs involve a lot of sitting on your ass doing nothing.

You can be required to create economic activity as part of a job, but the job is not itself the economic activity.

>>1518079
I'm sure this intended to be a gotcha, but you really just come across as not understanding the argument. I couldn't make you look any stupider than you're making yourself look.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:13:07 No.1518086 Report

Quoted By: >>1518088

>>1518082
>My employer pays me less because of taxes.
>My income isn't affected
Well now. Take a moment and consider what you've read. Keep in mind, I don't need you to admit you're wrong. You can keep that part to yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:13:16 No.1518087 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518080
>Income tax isn't robbing the workers?
Why would it be robbing workers? Clearly they just pass that shit on like you said. Workers aren't the consumer. Their employer is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:14:38 No.1518088 Report

Quoted By: >>1518089

>>1518086
>My employer pays me less because of taxes.
>My income isn't affected
Walk me through how a tax on my income makes my employer pay me less?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:16:14 No.1518089 Report

Quoted By: >>1518096

>>1518088
You're isolating things that shouldn't be isolated here and that's why you don't understand.
Thinking in one dimension got you into this mess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:17:37 No.1518090 Report

Quoted By: >>1518091

>>1518082
>Not directly, no, unless you're expanding economic activity to mean all movement of money which is obviously not what I meant since I included fucking tariffs.
Tariffs are included. And movement of money is economic activity, as is movement of goods and providing services.
What do you believe economic activity to actually consist of?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:21:37 No.1518091 Report

Quoted By: >>1518099

>>1518090
>And movement of money is economic activity

>economic
>adjective
>eco·nom·ic ˌe-kə-ˈnä-mik ˌē-kə-
>Synonyms of economic
>1
>a
>: of, relating to, or based on the production, distribution, and consumption of goods and services

Please stop embarrassing yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:23:34 No.1518096 Report

Quoted By: >>1518102

>>1518089
>You're isolating things that shouldn't be isolated here and that's why you don't understand.
I don't want to hear that from someone that claims taking benefits from someone is somehow materially different to their way of life from taking property owned outright.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:26:24 No.1518099 Report

Quoted By: >>1518100 >>1518101

>>1518091
So, name one common thing that money is usually moved about for in a capitalist system that doesn't fit that description.
And we're off point here. You're nitpicking looking desperately to score a point. You've shut your brain down. You're thinking of a mantra to save you and one isn't coming to mind so you're trying to pick at definitions.
>Define real economic activity!!!
Turn on your brain and digest a bit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:28:20 No.1518100 Report

Quoted By: >>1518104

>>1518099
>So, name one common thing that money is usually moved about for in a capitalist system that doesn't fit that description.
Bro has actually never heard the phrase "real economy" or wondered what it meant or was in contrast to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:30:51 No.1518101 Report

Quoted By: >>1518104

>>1518099
Ask me how I know you're poor as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:31:01 No.1518102 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518096
No, follow the chain. You've misunderstood, again.
There's no isolation between you and your employer when it comes to taxation.
You pay income taxes. Your employer pays income taxes (or corporate taxes).
You are the same and equal. If your employer pays less taxes, your employer has more money to pay you in theory whether or not the employer would is another story. However, if if production was localized instead of willingly outsourced, perhaps you could unionize and demand higher wages.
And go ahead and keep picking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:32:20 No.1518104 Report

Quoted By: >>1518136

>>1518101
I'm not fighting for communism.
>>1518100
Bro is fighting so hard not to believe that taxes are a net negative. It's literally a fucking bill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:34:13 No.1518105 Report

Quoted By: >>1518106 >>1518107 >>1518109

>>1518068
>If I stood outside your house and said you owed me $500 a month or else something bad would happen to you, what would you call that?
I would call that someone that's about to get shot. Which is why your analogy sucks dick. 1) The government isn't forcing people to buy health insurance, and 2) what the fuck does this have to do with Republicans lowering taxes?

>>1518070
>Let me try and put this in terms you might understand. You have one Charizard card. It's worth $100. The Pokemon Company then prints 99 more. That card is now worth $1. Inflation reduces relative purchasing power. Paying off debt via printing drives inflation. Therefore debt reduces relative purchasing power. The government taking on debt reduces people's wealth.
...aaand this is not a Republican policy. Last I checked, Biden was the one who made inflation go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTT.

>You can still rob someone by taking away their benefits.
>The Republicans are stealing from the poor!
>How?
>uh.... They're taking away all our free shit!
Great argument.

> If I stole your identity and got access to your social security payments, you'd still fucking call that theft,
FROM the government. I still get those benefits (in theory, don't get me started on how much of a scam SS is) when the fucker gets caught.

None of this, by the way, relates to what I asked earlier. How the fuck do Republicans lowering taxes for everyone = robbing the poor? I must've missed the part where that included stealing social security checks from random people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:35:34 No.1518106 Report

Quoted By: >>1518110 >>1518111 >>1518120

>>1518105
If you don’t have health insurance, you spend your life digging yourself out of medical debt the moment you wish you had it.
It is extortion. Plain and simple

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:36:26 No.1518107 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518105
you're a great example of why not to play chess with pigeons

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:40:00 No.1518109 Report

Quoted By: >>1518113

>>1518105
>. 1) The government isn't forcing people to buy health insurance
*Anymore
*1 Unless you live in California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington, D.C.
2) what the fuck does this have to do with Republicans lowering taxes?
Healthcare is the US government's biggest expense, and most of these faggots probably work indirectly for an investment firm which holds stock in United Healthcare or something.
There's no other reason aside from lack of research to conclude that more stolen money is an answer to the problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:41:00 No.1518110 Report

Quoted By: >>1518112

>>1518106
Why wouldn't you have health insurance though?
Did you not apply for Medicaid, or ACA?
Whose fault is it you're that lazy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:41:19 No.1518111 Report

Quoted By: >>1518112

>>1518106
You're not entitled to free fucking healthcare. That is not a right in America. So your bullshit argument of Republicans robbing the poor is exactly that. Maybe stop eating fast food and make better life decisions instead of expecting taxpayers to bail your fat ass out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:42:05 No.1518112 Report

Quoted By: >>1518115

>>1518110
>>1518111
how did you end up sucking billionaire dick for a living?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:42:50 No.1518113 Report

Quoted By: >>1518116

>>1518109
>*1 Unless you live in California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington, D.C.
So all the cucked blue states. Yeah I can't help it you vote for less freedom.

>Healthcare is the US government's biggest expense,
And? That is still not robbing the poor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:44:52 No.1518114 Report

Quoted By: >>1518118

interesting how this thread about concentration camps turned into a billionaire dicksucking fest

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:45:52 No.1518115 Report

Quoted By: >>1518117

>>1518112
You do realize that you're the one sucking the billionaire dick, right?
>I want more money for the government to give to private companies to provide services!!!
>I'm literally demanding higher taxes to give away to the billionaires!!!
>Why are you sucking billionaire dick by not allowing them to pass their taxes on to you, AND benefit from government contracts?
>WTF.
Faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:46:56 No.1518116 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518113
>And? That is still not robbing the poor.
Never said it wasn't. I was personally interjecting some clarity for the liggerals (who are literally beyond reason so I don't know why I bothered).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:48:11 No.1518117 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518115
get a real job esl shill, aren't you sick of humiliating yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:49:08 No.1518118 Report

Quoted By: >>1518119

>>1518114
To be fair, illegal advocacy exists to ensure consumption of as many government services as possible to enrich billionaires who provide such services.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:50:20 No.1518119 Report

Quoted By: >>1518122

>>1518118
you just keep smearing shit all over this thread don't you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:50:40 No.1518120 Report

Quoted By: >>1518121

>>1518106
>It is extortion. Plain and simple
No what is extortion is you thinking you have a right to free shit that I have to pay for. You're stealing from me, calling it a right, and then threatening to riot and murder CEOs if I don't keep paying for your Ozempic and Adderall.

Go fuck yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:51:40 No.1518121 Report

Quoted By: >>1518123

>>1518120
>wanting to join the rest of the first world is stealing from me (not a billionaire, but still sucking billionaire dick)
this makes no sense, but you'll still argue it all night

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:53:51 No.1518122 Report

Quoted By: >>1518124 >>1518125

>>1518119
To be fair, it's pretty shitty thread. The not-so hidden message being: One person experienced and inconvenience so we must SHUT IT DOWN.
WIIFM means there's some reason the news paper of one of the world's richest men would want illegals.
But trusting billionaires who say things you want to hear is a hallmark of the liggeral class.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:54:02 No.1518123 Report

Quoted By: >>1518124

>>1518121
>>wanting to join the rest of the first world
>we should be cucked like the rest of europe
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:55:07 No.1518124 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518122
>>1518123
how many devices are you posting from, esl shill? you're so motivated tonight

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:55:51 No.1518125 Report

Quoted By: >>1518126

>>1518122
do you ever tire of being wrong, esl shill?

Spotted ESL Tit

Spotted ESL Tit Wed 03 Jun 2026 23:58:03 No.1518126 Report

Quoted By: >>1518127

>>1518125
There's at least two of us ripping on you for being fooled by billionaires. It's a shame to see them getting their money's worth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 00:01:27 No.1518127 Report

Quoted By: >>1518130

>>1518126
no there aren't, lying faggot. you should learn how to lie better

Spotted ESL Tit

Spotted ESL Tit Thu 04 Jun 2026 00:08:27 No.1518130 Report

Quoted By: >>1518131

>>1518127
To be fair, anyone worth arguing with lost and left the thread to go hang a MAGA flag and demand lower taxes, probably. You're a crippled retard so just go spam BBC threads on /b/ or something alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 00:09:43 No.1518131 Report

Quoted By: >>1518132 >>1518133

>>1518130
why do you keep saying to be fair? did you just learn that phrase

Spotted ESL Tit

Spotted ESL Tit Thu 04 Jun 2026 00:12:32 No.1518132 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518131
To be fair, Your desperate cries for attention don't interest me anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 00:17:56 No.1518133 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518131
>did you just learn that phrase
Its not like they know any english, its just what their AI algorithm is pushing.
The cuck and raceplay fetish is all theirs though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 01:01:03 No.1518136 Report

Quoted By: >>1518138

>>1518104
>I'm not fighting for communism.
Well, yes, poverty tends to correlate with worse education, but there's a more direct reason why I know you're a broke bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 01:27:37 No.1518138 Report

Quoted By: >>1518140

>>1518136
I made millions off of crypto though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 01:33:49 No.1518140 Report

Quoted By: >>1518147

>>1518138
>I made millions off of crypto though.
Sure, m8. Which is why you couldn't think of anything in a capitalist system that doesn't involve the production, distribution, or consumption of a good or service, e.g. making money off crypto.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 01:56:28 No.1518146 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518027
>$300 billion to Iran
MAGAt: 'Thank you Master Trump, please may I have another?'

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 02:10:05 No.1518147 Report

Quoted By: >>1518149

>>1518140
WTF does that have to do with anything I've said?
>I scored a point while missing the point!
>Go team tardo!
Why do this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 02:34:40 No.1518149 Report

Quoted By: >>1518150 >>1518152 >>1518153

>>1518147
>WTF does that have to do with anything I've said?
Is crypto part of a capitalist system?

>I scored a point while missing the point!
The point was you don't know what economic means or what the real economy is and you challenged me to find the existence of transactions of a kind you claim to have made millions off of. You might as well simultaneously claim to be the King of England and that England doesn't exist.

I know you're a broke bitch because the word "finance" is a fucking foreign concept to you and you have the gall to act like you're a millionaire despite that.

You have repeatedly outed yourself as a blatantly ignorant fuckwad and if you had an ounce of shame and an ounce of perspective from having the first idea of what you're talking about, you'd have killed yourself half the thread ago.

You aren't a hotshot crypto trader. You're a broke ass, dumbfuck redhat voting against your own economic interests and your failed attempts to put on airs are obvious to anyone capable of putting up with enough of your bullshit to get a complete thought out of you. Fuck off, you ignorant clown. This has been one of the most pathetic displays I've ever seen on this hellsite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 02:41:43 No.1518150 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518149
Yet you still haven't disproven anything I've said.
Intersting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 02:55:41 No.1518152 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518149
>ITT king liggeral thinks it's in poor people's interest to pay the taxes of billionaires.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 03:02:49 No.1518153 Report

Quoted By: >>1518154

>>1518149
>voting against your own economic interests
He said the line again!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 03:04:17 No.1518154 Report

Quoted By: >>1518159 >>1518171

>>1518153
He did, and he compartmentalized everything and focused on one point to avoid the main argument.
It's fucking sad to witness isn't it?
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 03:10:11 No.1518156 Report

Quoted By: >>1518158

i'm pretty sure we should just rename this board "some weird faggot has full blown conversations with himself"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 03:12:45 No.1518158 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518156
We could rename it the "esl shill shill troll board".
I'm sure there's probably more posts about this esl shill person than even Trump at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 03:13:26 No.1518159 Report

Quoted By: >>1518160

>>1518154
>to avoid the main argument.
What was the main argument again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 03:14:40 No.1518160 Report

Quoted By: >>1518161 >>1518162

>>1518159
The one you ignored. Go back and read the thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 03:19:29 No.1518161 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518160
the one about how regressive taxation is just sucking billionaire dick with extra steps?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 03:19:44 No.1518162 Report

Quoted By: >>1518163

>>1518160
How that other anon doesn't know what economics means, according to you, and something about redhats voting against our own interests...

Or you could just tell me what the main point is in one sentence and I'll address it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 03:29:09 No.1518163 Report

Quoted By: >>1518164

>>1518162
Or you could go back and read the fucking thread like you should've the first time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 03:34:24 No.1518164 Report

Quoted By: >>1518168

>>1518163
Read it. Still don't see your point.

,... you do have a point, right? Or is it just full of ad hom for that other guy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 03:43:05 No.1518168 Report

Quoted By: >>1518169 >>1518173 >>1518174

>>1518164
How many times have I fallen for this routine? A few. Might as well do it again.
The point is that consumers pay taxes. Therefore raising taxes on billionaires is an additional tax on consumers.
Just as raising taxes on property owners is paid for by renters of property.
It's extremely simple.
Liggerals think taxes are a solution to all that ails and it's annoying. If you don't like billionaires, regulate them to death using the power of the government which extends beyond punitive taxation schemes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 03:53:16 No.1518169 Report

Quoted By: >>1518170

>>1518168
So what did you mean by
>You're a broke ass, dumbfuck redhat voting against your own economic interests
I'm assuming redhat = MAGA hat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 03:55:15 No.1518170 Report

Quoted By: >>1518171

>>1518169
That wasn't me. Thus the need to go back and read the thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 04:03:52 No.1518171 Report

Quoted By: >>1518172

>>1518170
Okay this makes sense now. I thought this post >>1518154 was sarcastic. Nevermind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 04:08:03 No.1518172 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518171
If you read the thread you'd have seen the slimeball trying to wriggle out of addressing the point multiple times.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 04:33:35 No.1518173 Report

Quoted By: >>1518179

>>1518168
>Therefore raising taxes on billionaires is an additional tax on consumers.
Ah yes, cause all billionaires have customers they can pass costs off onto and all prices can be increased infinitely without a reduction in demand.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 04:36:31 No.1518174 Report

Quoted By: >>1518176 >>1518177

>>1518168
How would, for example, a millionaire that made his fortune trading crypto pass his taxes onto consumers? Asking for a friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 04:38:24 No.1518175 Report

Quoted By:

>>1517857
still not American
get the fuck out

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 04:41:19 No.1518176 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518174
why are liberals so concerned with policy about people who don't contribute anything to society?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 04:41:44 No.1518177 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518174
>Let's address this minor outlier.
Is this a common situation that disproves the core point?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 04:47:28 No.1518178 Report

Quoted By:

>>1517870
Unless you're part of an indigenous tribe you don't get to say shit on the matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 04:48:42 No.1518179 Report

Quoted By: >>1518180 >>1518181 >>1518182 >>1518184

>>1518173
Most billionaires are diversified so, yes. You dont make billions not providing a service a service. Even if you're working in finance generally you're providing a financial service.
And again it's an outlier you are attacking because you have nothing else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 05:07:38 No.1518180 Report

Quoted By: >>1518185 >>1518186

>>1518179
>Most billionaires are diversified so, yes
Do you believe if billionaires paid zero in taxes, consumers would receive cheaper goods and services?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 05:09:24 No.1518181 Report

Quoted By: >>1518183

>>1518179
How do I pass my taxes on to my employer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 05:10:55 No.1518182 Report

Quoted By: >>1518183

>>1518179
>Even if you're working in finance generally you're providing a financial service.
Speculation isn't a fucking service, you subhuman dumbfuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 05:25:23 No.1518183 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518182
Start a business.
>>1518181
But they call it a service? Financial services aren't a thing now?
And dodging the main point again and ignoring the norm isn't gaining you any points.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 05:28:53 No.1518184 Report

Quoted By: >>1518187

>>1518179
this is some next level knobslobbing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 05:30:10 No.1518185 Report

Quoted By: >>1518188

>>1518180
Possibly. As something that doesn't exist in reality it's hard to say.
However, it is correct that taxes are a net negative and affect consumers, just like tariffs.
Using the most basic example possible again, if property taxes go up, your rent will likely increase. Can we agree on this part at least?
So it should follow that pricing is increased to account for taxation. So when I purchase a Coke, the price of Coke's expected Taxes is included in the price (and I get to pay sales taxes too).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 05:31:24 No.1518186 Report

Quoted By: >>1518270

>>1518180
>Do you believe if billionaires paid zero in taxes, consumers would receive cheaper goods and services?
NTA, yes. Lower taxes allows more companies to enter the market, which increases competition, which decreases costs. See Donald Trump's 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act for more details.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 05:31:38 No.1518187 Report

Quoted By: >>1518191

>>1518184
By who? I'm not advocating for billionaires. I'm saying that raising taxes on billionaires isn't a solution as taxes are passed to the consumer.
Raising taxes has zero effect as a punitive measure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 05:31:53 No.1518188 Report

Quoted By: >>1518189

>>1518185
nigga shut up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 05:32:53 No.1518189 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518188
Why is your faith cracking? Why would I shut up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 05:35:23 No.1518190 Report

Quoted By: >>1518192

did he shut up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 05:36:11 No.1518191 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518187
And to add to that, taxes are generally funneled to billionaires to provide social services, such as healthcare which the liggerals usually want more money for to fix a problem that wasn't caused by too little money, but by government subsidies (ACA) and not enough regulation of the insurance and healthcare industries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 05:37:12 No.1518192 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518190
No, liggerals are hella mad and confused at this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 04 Jun 2026 19:03:35 No.1518231 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518072
Sounds out of network and/or elective and/or not pre-approved to me. Our very human and not at all an AI reviewers have reviewed your re-review request and determined that it is unnecessary. That'll be $35,000 plus tip.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2026 01:43:24 No.1518270 Report

Quoted By: >>1518328

>>1518186
>Lower taxes allow^ more companies to enter the market, which increases competition, which decreases costs.

This assumes the primary barrier to starting a business is taxes, which is patently fucking absurd.

The actual barriers for entry are startup costs, access to capital.supply chains, and incumbent market dominance.

If walmart makes 20 billion in taxable income, and a new regional competitor makes 2 million, who benefits more from tax cuts? How is that empowering their competition in any way?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2026 16:46:51 No.1518328 Report

Quoted By: >>1518351

>>1518270
>This assumes the primary barrier to starting a business is taxes, which is patently fucking absurd.
And yet California's high taxes and regulations make it the 50th worst state to open a business, per Forbes. But what the fuck do they know about money?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 05 Jun 2026 19:44:48 No.1518351 Report

Quoted By:

>>1518328
So in response to my brazenly obvious claim, "Taxes are not the primary barrier to entry for starting a business," your response is:

>"The business climate in California is bad!"
?
Holy mother of non sequiturs, batman!

Seriously though, Forbes uses 18 different metrics across five categories you dishonest dipshit, so the question isn't what the fuck do they know about money, but why the fuck do you have to blatantly lie to make an argument? You're misrepresenting your own source.

Now explain how, when Walmart gets billions in a tax cut, and a startup gets scraps, that's closing the competitive gap instead of widening it.

Or just pivot, appeal to authority, and argue against another strawman again, it's all you miga migger retards do on this board

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