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Anonymous Sun 03 May 2026 21:35:37 No.4507781 View View Reply Original Report

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Chance Encounter edition

I was going to snap a picture of a flower when this Saffron Finch came flying and stood on one of its branches

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2026 03:50:40 No.4512393 Report

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>>4509993
i agree also disagree, its a different game of skill, more llike hunting

i got a nice tree heron this season too!
>>4512210
>>4512210
Do some math. even with an 800 you have to be closer than you think to something the size of a ping pong ball to get uncropped frame filling.

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2026 04:02:06 No.4512394 Report

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2026 10:58:18 No.4512439 Report

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>>4512393
That tracks. The big money boomer at the place I used to try and do bird photos when I was a kid had a Canon 1200mm f5.6 and I was slapping around with an AE-1 and a 200mm f5.6 zoom. I've only ever seen one of them, and that guy was there with it several times.

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2026 11:24:35 No.4512446 Report

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2026 16:18:39 No.4512457 Report

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>>4512389
looks like a piece of plastic lol, what the fucks cinema v?

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2026 17:36:27 No.4512461 Report

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>>4512389
So cute!

Also that’s a coincidence I use the cinema-V raptor as well :P

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Anonymous Tue 02 Jun 2026 17:57:52 No.4512466 Report

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>>4512216
What a beautiful shot

>>4512389
I use the Cinema-V Raptor as well!! So cute >_<

>>4511798
I have never seen this kind of bird before :-0 or maybe I just need to open my eyes haha

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 00:09:09 No.4512517 Report

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I was chasing a heron around a pond, trying to get close enough for a food shot when I noticed a dark lump up in a tree. It was a barred owl.

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 00:10:10 No.4512518 Report

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>>4512517
good shot*

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Anonymous Wed 03 Jun 2026 00:14:28 No.4512520 Report

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>>4512517
Said heron WAY across the pond.

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Anonymous Sat 06 Jun 2026 16:05:44 No.4512896 Report

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Went out to a lake and wasn't much anything there.
It was somewhat sunny but suddenly went overcast when I got setup.
This pic was about 500ft out

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2026 17:13:51 No.4513060 Report

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A heron this morning

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2026 17:14:53 No.4513061 Report

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An egret this morning

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Anonymous Sun 07 Jun 2026 17:17:46 No.4513062 Report

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And a red-winged black bird.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 08:25:44 No.4513142 Report

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 11:53:41 No.4513155 Report

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Bird dudes, you're using long lenses for a lot of your shots. Any experience on how well Snoy's IBIS works with stabilized telephotos in the 400mm range?

I got a great deal on an old 70-400mm SSM from a yard sale and it has no stabilization, I'm not sure if I should sell it at a normal price and put the proceeds toward a stabilized lens like a Tamron 50-400 or Sigma 100-400, or if my old A7III's IBIS will be just fine at 400mm. No, I can't test it yet, I'm hunting for a deal on an adapter. I do not currently have a telephoto that fits my mirrorless and my biggest DSLR lens is 300mm.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 11:56:19 No.4513156 Report

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Bird dudes, you're using long lenses for a lot of your shots. Any experience on how well Snoy's IBIS works with UNstabilized telephotos in the 400mm range?

I got a great deal on an old 70-400mm SSM from a yard sale and it has no stabilization, I'm not sure if I should sell it at a normal price and put the proceeds toward a stabilized lens like a Tamron 50-400 or Sigma 100-400, or if my old A7III's IBIS will be just fine at 400mm. No, I can't test it yet, I'm hunting for a deal on an adapter. I do not currently have a telephoto that fits my mirrorless and my biggest DSLR lens is 300mm.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 15:48:56 No.4513180 Report

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>>4513156
I tried out an older nikon 300mm f4 on a z6ii thinking with the same logic, but the IBIS wasn't enough, it needs to be in the lens pretty much. Now, that's just nikon, but I'd imagine they all work similar.

I think the IBIS is more for video to be honest. If the case was that older lenses could greatly benefit from the IBIS they'd still be rather expensive on the used marker.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 15:55:50 No.4513181 Report

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>>4513180
IBIS was pioneered by cameras with no video chops whatsoever and remains a stills feature. In video, it causes edge/corner warping (blurs UWA photos too). It’s really more for keeping 28mm-85mm primes small, cheap, and reliabld after the disaster that was the DSLR VC/VR/IS primes almost no one bought because lens VR usually brings double gauss character to reality scanner price points and lens sizes, completely defeating 90% of why people prefer primes over the 30 year old virgin lens (24-70 f2.8).

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 15:56:03 No.4513182 Report

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>>4513180
>I think the IBIS is more for video to be honest. If the case was that older lenses could greatly benefit from the IBIS they'd still be rather expensive on the used marker.

What are you talking about? Do you not understand what image stabilization is? It's not even difficult to test the effects it has in stills. I've never tried IBIS with my telephotos because my telephotos have it built in, but its efficacy is clear with my shorter lenses.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 15:59:42 No.4513183 Report

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>>4513180
IBIS=video is a marketing invention to get newbie videographers to pay out the ass for some awkward crippled or poorly made mirrorless (ie: any panasonic or sony). its objectively BAD for professional videography (corner wobble, sensor heating, "snapping", lack of configurability, limits camera selection to rather flawed/terrible cameras just to get IBIS thats set up better for video) and all professional videographers use external stabilization that works with any camera whenever possible.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 16:09:19 No.4513184 Report

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>>4512135
Yes!

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 16:44:19 No.4513186 Report

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>>4513182
Ok well you're contradiction by saying I'm wrong and then saying you've never used it is kind of a wierd flex lol...

I tried it on an older 300mm, it didn't do anything from what I saw, how is the IBIS going to stabilize the lens at the long end? Camera shake gets exponential with telephotos...

>>4513181
It's for both from my understanding...

>>4513183
Well I figured that. A pro isn't gonna rely souly on the cameras out of the box feature lol...

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 16:47:23 No.4513187 Report

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>>4513186
>Ok well you're contradiction by saying I'm wrong and then saying you've never used it is kind of a wierd flex lol...
You illiterate piece of shit, I said I didn't use it on TELEPHOTOS. I use it all the time with shorter lenses and it is CLEARLY not "more for video" and "no benefit to older lenses"

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 17:13:58 No.4513194 Report

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>>4513187
Anon asked about telephotos, I gave my opinion on it. If the lens doesn't have VR or whatever and it's relying on IBIS it doesn't make much of a difference.

Ao your opinion on this matter is useless since we are exclusively talking about telephotos. And yes IBIS gas a huge influence on today's mirrorless cameras for video. It's one of the selling points, it works nicely with one of my older lenses for video, so I don't know what you're freaking out over.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 17:34:38 No.4513195 Report

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>>4513194
IBIS is primarily a stills feature in reality. It is unironically bad for video. If you convince yourself it isn’t you are primed set yourself up for disappointment and chase body upgrades. This is why marketing now calls IBIS a video feature.

Use this handy guide
Video: Gimbal or steadycam
Telephoto: Lens VR only or hybrid VR+IBIS
Normal stills: IBIS
UWA lenses: Lens VR only
Protecting your virginity: Tripod
Carrying a weapon in europe: monopod

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 17:37:59 No.4513196 Report

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>>4513195
Why do you say that? After being disappointed with panasonic i bought a canon r5ii for video and im finally happy with the IBIS. My youtube shorts have never been better.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 17:43:33 No.4513197 Report

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>>4513194
You're a fucking moron

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 17:59:13 No.4513198 Report

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>>4513195
Almost all lenses made today have image stabilization, or are fast enough they don't need it, plus IBIS.
For your average joe IBIS is good enough for basic video needs. All the other shit added on like gimbals and such just make it better.

>>4513197
Leave this bird thread.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 18:09:13 No.4513199 Report

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>>4513198
No, IBIS is genuinely terrible for video unless you hit peak consoomer. IBIS in video drives more camera upgrade idiocy than anything else. I really recommend anyone using IBIS in video forget about it from now on and buy a gimbal for their next (and last) upgrade b

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 19:09:22 No.4513206 Report

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So I have a crazy idea. I'd like to try birding with a 35mm film camera. The film I'd like to try is kodak ecktachrome e100 so it can be cut up to put in slides for a kodak carousel projector. Do you think a 200mm lens is good enough or should I find something a bit longer? Am I just setting myself up for failure?

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 19:28:04 No.4513209 Report

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>swiggity swooty

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 19:33:41 No.4513211 Report

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>>4513198

How about you leave? You're the guy who replied to my genuine question with zero applicable experience and flagrant boomerlore
>IBIS is more for video
>If old lenses benefited from it they would be more expensive
Old lenses aren't cheap because IBIS doesn't work with them, they're cheap because they aren't native to newer systems and most of them are optically worse than the modern equivalents.

I just want to know if anyone has experience with IBIS and a lens this long, and how well it works, hence asking the bird guys instead of the gear thread who will just start arguing about brands and top of the line lenses. I know it works great with my unstabilized 17-50 f4 and 105mm Nikon Macro, and if it is basically useless with a 400 I was just going to flip the lens instead of buying an adapter and buy something more modern.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 19:50:09 No.4513213 Report

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>>4513180
>Now, that's just nikon, but I'd imagine they all work similar.

Considering that Nikon doesn't even offer an adapter for AF-D lenses, I wouldn't be surprised if they disabled or gimped IBIS similar to how Sony gimped framerate and focus modes if you use adapted A-mount lenses, or aftermarket adapters for other brands.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 19:53:01 No.4513214 Report

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>>4513211
IBIS gets exponentially less useful over 85mm and under 24mm (corner smears)

Focus point linked IBIS is a thing but its still not as good as a stable camera

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 20:19:29 No.4513218 Report

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>>4513214
>exponentially
That's an answer that hints that there's data or math to this, do you have it or are you just making something up?

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 20:39:17 No.4513222 Report

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>>4513206
Why not? You definitely "can" but birding is like 40% location, 20% luck, 20% skill and 20% gear. What long lenses and fast AF do is shrink the luck and location requirements and give you more opportunities because they bring you closer and are faster. The shorter your lens and slower your gear the more dependent getting the shot is on luck, location, and skill. You could go to a preserve boardwalk or something and there might be birds close enough to get a good shot with a 200 no problem or you could go on a hike and not see a bird that does more than fill a focus point marker with a 200. When I first got into photography with film and my 100-200 FD lens I think I got one photo of a bird that was worth keeping before I eventually got an AF SLR and a longer lens because they were otherwise too far away or too fast. I need to see if I can dig it up but all of my old negatives from my middle school years are in a box buried under other boxes.

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Anonymous Mon 08 Jun 2026 21:07:42 No.4513224 Report

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>>4513211
Zero experience? Anon I literally gave you a real world experience, with a non stabilized lens it doesn't do much. Even calibrated it was still a bit shit, definitely not a handhold experience if you're going for sharpness.

Oh well. Take it or leave it, go waste some money on older lenses or whatever it is you're trying to do.

>>4513199
Yes it's for consumers, the average person, how many times do I have to repeat that? For stills it's nothing special, it's been around for a long ass time within the lens world, but for video ibis wasn't much pf a thing until recently.

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