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Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2023 05:59:12 No.4155719 View View Reply Original Report

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DoP's, studio photographers, and film hippies use them.

Do you use an incident meter? Why or why not?

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Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2023 06:01:56 No.4155721 Report

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I use a $6 app on my phone, which I could've used the free version but I like the upgrades

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Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2023 06:06:10 No.4155724 Report

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They’re expensive.

And I don’t understand how TTL and meters work together. If you preflash for a base exposure do you just up the power of the strobe for the desired ratio?

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Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2023 06:33:38 No.4155732 Report

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>>4155719
I would love to use one but I don't have 600 bucks to buy one and used ones are uncommon and I run the risk of them being inaccurate/ uncalibrated

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Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2023 06:54:27 No.4155736 Report

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>>4155719

I use one, they are probably one of the most complex things of all time.

Spot metering with a meter in camera makes sense. Knowing the exact spot to hold this, ball in or out, the angle to hold it etc, it’s so many more variables which basically means you need a ton more knowledge to use it properly and it’s very easy to get it wrong.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2023 06:59:41 No.4155738 Report

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>>4155719
>metering for black and white film
lol, lmao even

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Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2023 08:36:26 No.4155763 Report

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I've got an Minolta Auto-Meter owned by the late & great Jean-Yves Escoffier.
I've also got a Pentax spotmeter if I want to shoot slide. It wields the best results and my MF cameras do not have any built in meters anyways.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2023 10:30:23 No.4155786 Report

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I bought a sekonic l358 in 2005 for meeting off camera flashes. It was my only way for meeting withy medium format cameras. Sold the l385 around 2010 when I stopped using flashes and downsized to an l308. Been using that ever since.

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Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2023 12:56:11 No.4155811 Report

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>>4155736
incident meters seem pretty useless outside of a studio environment with key lights and fill lights and all that jazz. I prefer my 1 degree spot meter for general photography

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Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2023 18:20:55 No.4155940 Report

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>>4155719
>Do you use an incident meter?
bold of you to assume my subjects are consenting in being photographed and aren't being properly metered from a safe distance

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Anonymous Fri 17 Mar 2023 23:43:00 No.4156094 Report

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Wasn't looking for a meter but got one of these for cheap.
Found two of my cameras were meterting a little slow, now I just compensate when using them.
Shooting landsaoes, the meter is not much good, but experiments at home and with near objects I was able to get a better understanding of how the meter in the camera works, or see things. Yep there are plenty of books and online articals on the how, but actually trying it in practice I lerant so much more quickly.
Don't use it much now, maybe for an indoor shoot, last was of artwork in a gallery. Have gotten a Pentax spot meter since, and that does get used a lot, need to do something about the mercury battery, that going to die soon.

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Anonymous Sat 18 Mar 2023 00:07:54 No.4156098 Report

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>>4155940
i would serve 25 just to kill a paparazzi
paparazzi are not photographers they are scum of the earth
so are street ''photographers''
both are kill on sight worthy

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Anonymous Sun 19 Mar 2023 08:23:32 No.4156559 Report

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Got me a used Sekonic L-358 for around US$150 on fleabay. How badly did I fuck up?

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2023 12:36:30 No.4157177 Report

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>>4155719
Studio photographer here. I seriously dont know whats tje fucking point. By the 10th studio session you should know the distances, flash intensity and camera setup by hand. Considering you rarely move away from 5.6f its even easier than what you could imagine. Even if you are bad, just take one picture and change settings.
I guess I would have loved it for film video. With digital video Id prefer false color.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2023 12:55:10 No.4157182 Report

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>>4157177
>sheltered idiot who never leaves his 4 walls here
>how does light outside work?

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2023 12:57:39 No.4157183 Report

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>>4157182
In my defense studio portraiture is the most patrician genre.

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Anonymous Mon 20 Mar 2023 12:59:59 No.4157184 Report

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>>4157182
Nigga are you using film cameras? There are even less reasons to use it without a flash setup. You have in your camera like 4 different tools to take a picture with the exposition you want.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 04:17:37 No.4158320 Report

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>>4155736
>>4155811
Pic related is an exposure scale used for the zone system. V constitutes 18% grey, every other value increments by a stop.

Unless the shade of the object you’re spot metering for matches 18% grey, you are never going to get the exposure right unless you faff with different compensations. And even if you were some savant who can see the world in greyscale and instantly determine if a surface is in zone V, what if there are no such objects in the scene? An incident meter only makes sense for most people.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 04:37:04 No.4158324 Report

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>>4155736
100% agreed I use my handheld with strobes but for everything else the in camera metering. It’s too nuanced to be worth it imho.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 21:02:40 No.4158603 Report

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If im in a studio I will use my DSLR with trial and error to get a correct exposure. I always shoot at 100 iso, 1/60, only my aperature chnges depending on the look I want. It's usually perfect on the second or at most third try. When the exposure is good i just copy and paste the settings on my SLR and take my shot.

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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 21:23:31 No.4158608 Report

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>>4158320

Can't I just evaluate a scene and choose what item I want to represent Zone V so that other parts are lighter and darker?

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Anonymous Thu 23 Mar 2023 22:03:19 No.4158614 Report

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>>4158320
An incident meter requires moving to important places in the scene, then measuring various contributions by variously shadowing or pointing the meter at the light source. If the scene has multiple sources, as most do, and bounces from various directions, as most do, it becomes complex to try to figure out all the contributions, and what to adjust. Spot meters are confusing at first but once you understand how the zones work and how to interpret readings, it's much more convenient than incident meters.

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Anonymous Fri 24 Mar 2023 00:08:16 No.4158657 Report

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>>4158614
Except I can be walking and take an incident meter in the sun and then in my own shadow and go from there. Works well enough for shooting slide.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2023 05:14:02 No.4160739 Report

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>>4155719
I actually have a Westone meter and as far as I can tell, it works, but I don't really have a use for it, and on top of that, I might be too retarded to use it.

I got a camera at the same time I got the Westone and its meter isn't accurate. I shot a roll through it and just metered by eye and bracketed exposures and all my exposures were actually just fine. I didn't even need to bracket. Since I don't shoot slides my eyes are a good enough meter. why fix what isn't broken?

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Art_repro_fag22 Wed 29 Mar 2023 05:26:56 No.4160748 Report

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>>4155719
No, Im lucky enough to have a mirrorless with zebra strips that tell me if anything is over exposed before I even take a shot.

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Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2023 05:41:11 No.4160753 Report

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>>4160748
based mirrorless chad

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Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2023 06:02:41 No.4160764 Report

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>>4160748
>zebras will totally warn me about what will be overexposed before i fire off these 3 strobes
said no one with a functioning brain

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Art_repro_fag22 Wed 29 Mar 2023 06:17:44 No.4160772 Report

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>>4160764
Of course it doesn't, who said I used strobes?

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Anonymous Wed 29 Mar 2023 11:51:11 No.4160841 Report

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I would like to use one. I have an app on my phone but a dedicated meter is better. I just don't have the cash to justify the purchase when I can get by without it.

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