>>5710194the fact that she's a child that was just scared shitless by the biggest fucking witch ever, right after almost exploding again, was already taken into account from the start. don't worry
>Something that's been bugging me with the convincing attempts is the lack of wisdom rolls with them. As described by the manual, wisdom determines the ability to figure out the intent of others and understand their beliefs. But why is it missing in attempting to convince people? If you intuit what a person believes in, you can better judge what arguments to present and not present.the point of char is that you convince by just seeming to know your shit, without the need to know any of it, and it could work anywhere. it's kind of like a joker. it's automatic because it requires no explanation
but when it comes to int or wis in convincement attempts there /are/ explanations to be made. you can have very low char and very high wis and still convince people regardless because you give them actual data to work with. however, the more they understand their shit (the higher their int or wis stats are) the harder it is to convince through char because they'd be more discriminative of the information, thus you can help yourself with int or wis yourself in order to power your char rolls or just schew those altogether by attempting to reason through pure wis or int alone (which is erika's only way of interacting with people)
>A hesitant offer I might present to see wisdom usage in trying to convince people is us presenting the arguments/addendums, you lock them in, and then you ask us to roll wisdom to reveal to us if they apply negative or positive modifiers and if we're successful, we can choose which arguments keep or retract but cannot add any more, and if we're not successful in the wisdom roll, we don't know what the hell the argument point will do.actually i think could work you know. we could consider that the character, helen in this case, is just testing the grounds to figure out the other's mindset and therefore determine which addendum what to say or not to look good and avoid looking bad
>The main crux of this is how do we declare we will roll wisdom to figure out a person's belief? Is that something we do before we try a convincing attempt? Because if you can figure out someone loathes grapes, you won't offer them some when trying to convince them to help you do something. Just trying to understand how wisdom works in what situations and how to actively use that stat.in my mind, you'd roll wisdom after a post to try and figure out someone's motives, but now that i took a deep dive at my own shit i realized there wouldn't ever be a reason to /not/ do it in the first place, and it would also be kinda tedious and slow. so fuck it, let's give your method a go. that being said, sometimes these rolls will be wis, sometimes they will be int. why? cuz sometimes the problem is /why/ and sometimes the problem is /how/
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