>>20421672Typica(l) Smogon arguments in the thread.
>Lucario wins if it's at +2 Attack and has this specific coverage moveWell yeah, obviously. However, they seem to be forgetting something:
>Lucario isn't always at +2 Attack>Lucario doesn't always get free turns to set up>Lucario has shit HP and defenses>Lucario has to rely on Mach Punch/Bullet Punch/Vacuum Wave in many cases which can be played around by using Talonflame>Lucario has three extremely abusable weaknesses>Lucario isn't always running all of its sets at the same time>Not all of Lucario's sets will wreck your entire team if it's will builtSeriously, Smogon is a fucking joke. They just banned Blaziken and now Lucario is going. The most hilarious thing is that Blaziken was the perfect counter for Lucario, but since Smogon bans Mons that keep many other threats checked, they end up in a vicious circle where they have to ban and ban again because all the checks and counters have been banned already. There's no stopping this now. All the pro-ban arguments assume that Lucario is always running the most favorable set in the most favorable circumstances, so of course it looks like it broken. However, M-Lucario doesn't have significant unhealthy impact on OU so it shouldn't be banned, but that's not relevant since the Smogon "council" wants it banned so it's gone. I swear to God, I will literally an hero on live stream if M-Lucario is not banned.