>>13613667>1the only 'real' support he needs is soaking, beyond that he's a goddamn damage sponge with no bottom, I'm not even convinced water spout is a good move for octillery anyways as I learned from Typhlosion, any move that relies on your pokemon's health to do damage is exponentially dangerous as the battle progresses.
>2Sandstorm is going to be a problem, that's exactly why I've considered a drought ninetales as rework, and shedinja's sunny day to brute-force it out.
>3now that you mention it I really could use that, the issue is where to place it, or what 'places'
>4that is a true threat, and looking at the stats, why that has anything to do with OU instead of uber is beyond me, then again there's always the bullshit hinge of a team, which is what I'm trying to get going.
Really if anything it's forcing actual thought processing and fucking over cookie cutter smogon builds. I about steam rolled two teams if weren't for Cloyster and a ferrothorn. Bottom line is - people don't really know how to deal with new things that aren't on smogon.
Rev up them slot 6 suggestions, even better if it tears cloyster or kyurem-b a new asshole as they're appearing to be the wrench in my plans.