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Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 00:36:51 No.17372915 View View Reply Original Report

since bug bite is now unobtainable in X&Y, what's the GOAT set for it now? also, if it gets fell stinger, how would it change the metagame?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 04:27:27 No.17377836 Report

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>>17372915
bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 04:28:47 No.17377860 Report

Quoted By: >>17381777 >>17381836

What it really needs is Super Power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 04:30:27 No.17377879 Report

Quoted By: >>17381845 >>17390765

>>17372915
Bulky Swords Dance with X-Scissor instead of Bug Bite. But seriously, just port your Pokegened Scizor from Gen 5. And Fell Stinger is shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 04:31:06 No.17377892 Report

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Defog, U-Turn, Burrito Punch, move of your choice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 08:18:15 No.17381777 Report

Quoted By: >>17381836

>>17377860
please it''s op enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 08:22:40 No.17381836 Report

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>>17377860
>>17381777
It already can get Superpower. At least in BW2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 08:23:18 No.17381845 Report

Quoted By: >>17381915

>>17377879

>fell stinger is shit

Yeah on Beedrill, not on fucking Scizor with technician.

If not using BW2 tutors the best you can do with M-Scizor is something like Bullet Punch/Roost/SD with X-Scissor or Thief.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 08:29:08 No.17381908 Report

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Bullet Punch
Superpower
Swords Dance
Roost/Bug bite

Basically a Bulky SD set

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 08:29:31 No.17381915 Report

Quoted By: >>17387158 >>17387695

>>17381845
25*1.5*1.5=56,25
56 Basepower

Meaning a +2 Fell Stinger is weaker than a +0 Bug Bite

252+ Atk Technician Mega Scizor Bug Bite vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Manaphy: 180-213 (52.7 - 62.4%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

+2 252+ Atk Technician Mega Scizor Fell Stinger vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Manaphy: 148-175 (43.4 - 51.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 10:52:32 No.17383230 Report

Quoted By: >>17383415 >>17383466 >>17383559

How is Bug Bite unobtainable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 11:15:38 No.17383415 Report

Quoted By: >>17383466

>>17383230
unobtainable as in scizor can't learn it

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 11:21:08 No.17383466 Report

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>>17383230
>>17383415
How do you get bug bite for Scizor again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 11:33:13 No.17383559 Report

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>>17383230
BW2 move tutor move iirc

considering I have a shiny scizor on my BW, what would be the best set I could give it before I bank it up to X and lose the opportunity for move tutor moves? It's naughty and I think I already EV trained it in attack and speed, but I don't mind resetting them. Also is mega scizor any better than regular scizor with life orb/choice band?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 17:26:12 No.17387158 Report

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>>17381915
its just nice to beable to have a boost if you know you can KO

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 17:33:40 No.17387296 Report

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I personally run:
X- Scissor
Burrito Punch
Roost
Swords Dance
I've had a lot of success with it in Bullshit Maison

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 17:54:17 No.17387695 Report

Quoted By: >>17387753

>>17381915
fell stinger is 30 bp you autistic faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 17:57:57 No.17387753 Report

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>>17387695
>makes mistake
>automatically 'autistic faggot'

get yourself checked out or get some anger management you manchild

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 17:58:21 No.17387757 Report

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What's the point of fell stinger when you can just SD then bullet punch. Unlike mkanga, scizor isn't outspeeding jackshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 18:00:28 No.17387780 Report

Quoted By: >>17387816 >>17387837 >>17387857

Can anyone rate my Set with my Scizor?
Metronome item
-Bullet punch
-Pursuit
-Fury cutter
-Double hit

i was thinking that if i spamed the same moves long enough the power of the move would increase enough to be unstoppable. especially with bullet punch. btw how many stages can a moves power increase by? it only specifies on stat boost on Seribii but nothing about Metronome increasing power

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 18:02:58 No.17387816 Report

Quoted By: >>17387837

>>17387780
Metronome increases power by 10% every time until the 10th turn it's used then it stops increasing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 18:04:13 No.17387837 Report

Quoted By: >>17387892

>>17387780
>DOUBLE HIT
>DOUBLE FUCKING HIT
Dude wat. Also, fury cutter metronome on Scizor is shit because it isn't fast enough to sweep with it.
>>17387816
20% actually. It's still shit though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 18:06:07 No.17387857 Report

Quoted By: >>17387912

>>17387780
>Opponent switches pokemon
>Lose whatever boost you managed to build up
Lose double shit for swords dance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 18:08:12 No.17387892 Report

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>>17387837
Double hit actually One hit KO's alot of my opponents.
Oh ok i'll take your advice anon about Metronome though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 18:09:21 No.17387912 Report

Quoted By: >>17387937

>>>17387857
Move still works if it hits. as long as it makes contact it increases.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 18:10:57 No.17387937 Report

Quoted By: >>17387956

>>17387912
I meant if your opponent had a fucking pulse he would switch to something that resisted the move you were spamming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 18:12:13 No.17387956 Report

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>>17387937
Well as long as it makes contact still

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 18:27:40 No.17388187 Report

Quoted By: >>17388219 >>17388320

What do you guys think about my scyther?
Scyther@Eviolite
Technician
252def 252spdef 4att
- aerial ace
- fury cutter
- swords dance
- agility

This is mostly for fun, not trying to go full out competitive or anything, just want to see how viable it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 18:29:38 No.17388219 Report

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>>17388187
>def and sdef
its one or the other and hp

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 18:33:09 No.17388272 Report

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If I want to run Scizor with Defog, should I go for Scizorite?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 18:35:59 No.17388320 Report

Quoted By: >>17388355 >>17388433

>>17388187

Mine is :

Scyther @ Eviolite
Ability: Technician
EVs: 216 HP / 40 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Aerial Ace
- Roost
- Quick Attack / Batton-pass

Works great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 18:37:45 No.17388355 Report

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>>17388320
Thanks, I've been looking for a way to make it useful, I like using scyther a lot more than scizor for his speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 18:42:03 No.17388433 Report

Quoted By: >>17388485 >>17388529

>>17388320
does eviolite really make him bulky enough to bp well? I'd be pretty surprised since he has pretty bad defense and weaknesses

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 18:44:29 No.17388485 Report

Quoted By: >>17388577

>>17388433
He has 80 in both, so full EVs and eviolite can make him decently bulky, shame about those weaknesses though
Keep him away from rocks and he can be pretty good

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 18:46:46 No.17388529 Report

Quoted By: >>17393009

>>17388433
Yeah, Eviolite make him bulky as hell, It can wall 2 or 3 stab super-effectiv hits.

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-73513181

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 18:49:48 No.17388577 Report

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>>17388485
Note that if you use roost before your opponent, it negate his flying type, it's sure to survive a 2x super effectiv rock move .

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 18:50:04 No.17388582 Report

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>fell stinger is now a +1 priority move

did I make it op lel?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 20:38:31 No.17390442 Report

Quoted By: >>17390748

>Tfw when no Gear Grind/Shift Gear Scizor

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 20:53:21 No.17390748 Report

Quoted By: >>17390766

>>17390442

>Scizor with a 150 BP+STAB move that breaks sashes and subs, and fucking shift gear

it's ogre

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 20:54:46 No.17390765 Report

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>>17377879
can you port yet? or you have to wait until pokebank

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 20:54:48 No.17390766 Report

Quoted By: >>17391058

>>17390748
nice shrek meme :)
i like it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 21:10:15 No.17391058 Report

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>>17390766
>yfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 21:16:25 No.17391176 Report

Quoted By: >>17391957

Bulky Swords Dance

SD
X-Scissor
Bullet Punch
Pursuit/Superpower/Roost

Another good way to use him is for suppot

Bullet Punch
Roost
Toxic
Defog

Clears entry hazards and stall out foes with Toxic/Roost. Really bulky as well as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 21:54:52 No.17391957 Report

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>>17391176
What nature would you run on support Scizor? Adamant or a defensive one like Impish?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 22:42:43 No.17393009 Report

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>>17388529
>dat comeback
dayum

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 Jan 2014 22:54:14 No.17393246 Report

Quoted By: >>17395966

does scizor get shift gear and gear grind in gen6?? fuck, i'm gonna need to breed another one

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 Jan 2014 01:09:11 No.17395966 Report

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>>17393246
No

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