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The hell is this shit?

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 16:11:31 No.18850979 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>18851076 >>18851177 >>18851851 >>18851921 >>18851946

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/baton-pass-its-role-in-the-metagame-and-possible-solutions-to-nerf-full-baton-pass-chains.3504331/

Smogon now wants to ban full baton pass. Thoughts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 16:22:55 No.18851045 Report

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Smogon want to ban everything, they're the Team Plasma of Pokemon Battles. Just ignore them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 16:26:34 No.18851069 Report

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>move is at top of meta
>smogon bans
>meta shifts, other move rises to the top
>smogon bans
When will it end?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 16:27:13 No.18851076 Report

Quoted By: >>18851089 >>18851921

>>18850979

>Smogon now wants to ban full baton pass

butthatswrongyoufuckingretard.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 16:28:11 No.18851089 Report

Quoted By: >>18851152

>>18851076
Instead of saying it's wrong, tell him why he's wrong you fucking retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 16:28:41 No.18851093 Report

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did you even read the thread because it sure as fuck doesn't sound like it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 16:36:30 No.18851152 Report

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>>18851089
It's clear that op didn't even read the opening sentence to the first post.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 16:38:18 No.18851174 Report

Quoted By: >>18851684 >>18851839

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-103582168

Why can't I hold all this fun?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 16:38:23 No.18851177 Report

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>>18850979
Stored Power is the problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 17:09:21 No.18851493 Report

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So why on earth is this even a thing?
It's not like it's a luck based strategy or a common set.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 17:10:43 No.18851507 Report

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Stop.

Curse.

You're welcome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 17:26:44 No.18851641 Report

Quoted By: >>18851667

Even if they get a full set-up on Espeon you can

1. Send in an unaware pokemon

Not a fun team to face but ny no means unmanageable

2. Send in ditto

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 17:31:29 No.18851667 Report

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>>18851641
1) stored power still has stupid high BP even on unaware mons
2) imposter won,t go through sub's, which they're behind almost all the time

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 17:33:04 No.18851684 Report

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>>18851174
jesus christ

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 17:51:50 No.18851839 Report

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>>18851174
This is the most retarded shit I've ever seen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 17:53:02 No.18851851 Report

Quoted By: >>18851921

>>18850979

>Thoughts?

My thought is that you are a fucking idiot because you clearly can't read. Open up that link, and try again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 17:55:48 No.18851876 Report

Quoted By: >>18851921

>Preliminary notes: this is by no means a suspect thread, nor it is guaranteed that the move Baton Pass will ever be brought up for a formal suspect test.

/vp/ please learn too read
thanks
- anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 18:01:17 No.18851921 Report

Quoted By: >>18851933

>>18850979

OP, see:

>>18851076
>>18851851
>>18851876

Also, even if the discussion is about nerfing instead of banning, most people in the thread are in agreeance that it shouldn't be banned. So before you want to spout more uninformed, ignorant anti-Smogon shit, maybe try reading for once in your fucking life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 18:02:46 No.18851933 Report

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>>18851921

#gg #rekt

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 18:04:05 No.18851946 Report

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>>18850979
Good!
Baton passers are the worse rage quiting, even worse than 12 year olds when you will their Mewtwo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 18:56:45 No.18852425 Report

Quoted By: >>18852652

Doesn't Smogon suspect test Baton Pass teams every meta? How is this any different?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 19:14:48 No.18852609 Report

Quoted By: >>18852647

>baton pass teams
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-109731627

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 19:17:16 No.18852629 Report

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>there is people on /vp/ who actually against ban of this bullshit coin flip strategy
Get good already

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 19:18:42 No.18852647 Report

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>>18852609
>1500s
>not even dedicated pass

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 19:19:09 No.18852652 Report

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>>18852425
Speed boost scolipede, fairy/psychic Mr Mime (immune to dragon tail now), sylveon. Otherwise not much

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 19:26:19 No.18852715 Report

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> there is thousands of counters
> b-b-b-but we are to lazy to adapts better to ban legit move while hiding behind buzzwords about healthy meta or muh skill or viability of hard counters in ou
Fucking Smogon. Just man up and run fucking heath swap or haze or lost this 1% matches because you don't want to teambuild against any possible threat.

Large Hardon Collider

Large Hardon Collider Mon 14 Apr 2014 19:29:29 No.18852743 Report

Quoted By: >>18852762 >>18852798

So serious question. What is going to be left when they ban every strategy? The meta is already cookie cutter as is, I mean. Come on now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 19:32:35 No.18852762 Report

Quoted By: >>18852774

>>18852743
>gen 6 meta
>anywhere near as cookie cutter as gen 5
Any more dreck from smogon hate threads that you want to spout without forming your own educated opinions first?

Large Hardon Collider

Large Hardon Collider Mon 14 Apr 2014 19:33:26 No.18852774 Report

Quoted By: >>18852786

>>18852762
>implying I played in gen5

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 19:33:40 No.18852778 Report

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Limiting BP to a few mons/one mon per team is actually reasonable. You can still obtain the necessary boosts you need(Scolips for speed/attack/defense, 2 eeveelutions for sp.atk/sp.def/stored power) but more systems would need to be put in place for it to work.

Also, the team isn't completely fuckall useless when one mon is out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 19:34:30 No.18852786 Report

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>>18852774
You're just making your argument look worse.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 19:35:20 No.18852798 Report

Quoted By: >>18852825 >>18852837 >>18853062 >>18853093

>>18852743
Yeah, yeah, I'll get around to making a March one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 19:37:43 No.18852825 Report

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>>18852798
and VGC this year has like 50% garchomp usage

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 19:38:56 No.18852837 Report

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>>18852798
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
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Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 19:55:57 No.18853062 Report

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>>18852798
Got some from previous months?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 19:58:33 No.18853093 Report

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>>18852798
Fucking Gengar
#7 in Gen I
#3 in Gen II
#1 in Gen III
#6 in Gen IV
#11 in Gen V
#18 in Gen VI

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 20:09:23 No.18853217 Report

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Sure is alarmist in here

Smogon isn't considering anything about Baton Pass.

Does PO even know anything about Dennis: The Team?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 21:04:11 No.18853799 Report

Quoted By: >>18854131

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-109763653

You can't watch this and tell me baton pass isn't bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 21:37:31 No.18854131 Report

Quoted By: >>18854244

>>18853799
You realize one Taunt stops the entire team right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 21:46:59 No.18854230 Report

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Friendly reminder that weather teams were constantly being nerfed throguh Gen 5. Drizzle + wift Swim ban, Thundurus & Tornadus. BP might be the weather of this gen. Thigns will get banned wthout outright banning BP to make it more even.

Don't understand why people say Smogon have become ban happy when they've always banned shit if it gets too ludicrous. I don't see any more bans than last gen so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2014 21:48:06 No.18854244 Report

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>>18854131

You realise Magic Bounce Espeon is there to deal with that, and a competent BP player can easily play around it? Why else is the top of the ladder a bunch of BP teams.

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