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Lunala

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:45:39 No.29738578 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>29738607 >>29738644 >>29738654 >>29738688 >>29738719 >>29738727 >>29738941 >>29739109 >>29739605 >>29740357

OU or Ubers?
137-152 Base HP
113-129 Base Attack
77-92 Base defense
129-143 Base Special attack
107-122 Base Special Defense
96-111 Base Speed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:47:09 No.29738607 Report

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>>29738578
>night daze

i originally guessed uber but i want to see the rest of its stuff

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:48:12 No.29738627 Report

Quoted By: >>29738769 >>29738961 >>29739159

>box legend
>Master Ball

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:48:40 No.29738640 Report

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Leaning towards uber cause of stats + ability but the movepool will determine it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:48:52 No.29738644 Report

Quoted By: >>29738675

>>29738578
>night daze

You could actually pull out Zoroark shenanigans with this thing. Why does it have that much HP though? Good lord.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:49:22 No.29738654 Report

Quoted By: >>29738672

>>29738578
where did this come from?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:50:04 No.29738662 Report

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Ubers for sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:50:45 No.29738672 Report

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>>29738654
It's lunala without his trip apparently. The ID is the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:51:03 No.29738675 Report

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>>29738644
they did the same thing with xerneas and yveltal, higher hp with average mixed defenses. shadow shield should make this pretty impressive

can we get a base power on moongeist beam

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:51:38 No.29738688 Report

Quoted By: >>29738708

>>29738578
Depends. If base speed is 111 then I could make a strong argument for it being Ubers, but if the speed is lower then 110 it will probably be OU

Not sure what ability does though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:52:41 No.29738708 Report

Quoted By: >>29739005

>>29738688
I mean nights daze, not ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:52:57 No.29738716 Report

Quoted By: >>29738731 >>29738732 >>29738742

Box legos are always uber, right? Never been a exception?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:53:10 No.29738719 Report

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>>29738578
SMOGON DON'T MATTER AND ARE NOT OFFICIAL YOU STUPID FUCKING SHEEPS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:53:35 No.29738727 Report

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>>29738578
Ubers idiot

All box legends go there to begin with

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:53:43 No.29738731 Report

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>>29738716
Kyurem Black

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:53:43 No.29738732 Report

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>>29738716
black kyurem and suicune

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:54:03 No.29738742 Report

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>>29738716
Kyurem Black is the only exception, but that's because it lack a good Physical Ice move iirc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:54:47 No.29738752 Report

Quoted By: >>29740374

>>29738731
>>29738732
>Kyurem-Black
He was ubers to begin with, only dropped because his typing was worse than Zekrom's and he had no movepool.
>Suicune
Not a real box legend and you know it memer

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:55:25 No.29738766 Report

Quoted By: >>29738808

>80 defense stat
>while bisharp is OU

lunala is gonna be shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:55:37 No.29738769 Report

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>>29738627
Used a master ball just so he can catch it right away and post its stats. Didn't want to keep people waiting. Nice try though

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:56:09 No.29738778 Report

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>>29738719
>being official is more important than having fun
;)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 09:58:25 No.29738808 Report

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>>29738766
Gets OHKO by a knock off despite having full HP + multiscale

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 10:03:13 No.29738905 Report

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>Lunala used vacuum wave!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 10:05:41 No.29738941 Report

Quoted By: >>29738958 >>29738974

>>29738578
ubers you fucking tard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 10:06:50 No.29738958 Report

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>>29738941
>Slow and shit deffensive typing
It's Kyurem-B all over again

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 10:07:04 No.29738961 Report

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>>29738627
At least OP still has a legendary unlike you shitchild.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 10:07:56 No.29738974 Report

Quoted By: >>29738990 >>29743505

>>29738941
>Bisharp used Sucker Punch!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 10:08:45 No.29738990 Report

Quoted By: >>29739086 >>29739123

>>29738974
>lunala used willowisp!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 10:09:25 No.29739005 Report

Quoted By: >>29739028 >>29739127

>>29738708
night daze is zoroark's former signature move.
iirc 95 bp, 15% chance to reduce accuracy by one stage

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 10:10:33 No.29739028 Report

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>>29739005
85 BP
95 Acc
40% chance of lowering opponent's accuracy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 10:14:07 No.29739086 Report

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>>29738990
>It missed!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 10:15:29 No.29739109 Report

Quoted By: >>29740922

>>29738578
>Cosmic Power
>Night Daze
>130+ HP
>105+ Sp. Def
>Only two weaknesses

Jesus Christ, if this thing gets a recovery move it's going to break the FUCK out of OU.

Knock Off bait something fierce though, I can't imagine it would actually fair well in Ubers unfortunately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 10:16:14 No.29739123 Report

Quoted By: >>29739141 >>29740375

>>29738990
>Lunala used will-o-wisp!
>Bisharp used knock off!
>Bisharp used sucker punch!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 10:16:31 No.29739127 Report

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>>29739005
40% chance.

Meaning it's annoying as FUCK.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 10:17:33 No.29739141 Report

Quoted By: >>29739158

>>29739123
Sucker Punch got it's BP reduced to 50 anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 10:18:38 No.29739158 Report

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>>29739141
To 70 you mea. Even with burn Lunala has x4 weakness to it and without multiscale up, it dies very quickly with that shit defense stat

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 10:18:48 No.29739159 Report

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>>29738627
Master Ball color scheme matches it pretty well though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 10:19:59 No.29739176 Report

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>smogoncuck tiers
Can you go back to your forums? We talk about the real game here, not scrubdown

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 10:45:37 No.29739605 Report

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>>29738578
SM is full of shitmons, be it the starters or the box legends. Can't wait for gen 8

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 11:06:46 No.29739971 Report

Quoted By: >>29740018 >>29740093

>Offensive Ghost type with signature Ghost type nuke, Multiscale, 680 BST, triple digit base speed and hell knows what else
>OU
I knew /vp/ is bad at competitive, but not this bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 11:09:32 No.29740018 Report

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>>29739971
They are the same people who thought yveltal would be ou.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 11:13:16 No.29740093 Report

Quoted By: >>29740263

>>29739971
dude lugia gets hardwalled by mega sableye and unaware clefable, shit should be UU

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 11:22:54 No.29740263 Report

Quoted By: >>29740338

>>29740093
Ebin shitpost, but I'll bite. Lugia hardwalls almost everything without status moves, which in turn get hard stopped by, guess what, M-Sableye itself. I guess you could try bringing it down after banning M-Sableye from OU, but it's not going to end well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 11:27:39 No.29740338 Report

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>>29740263
dude lmao just use crawdaunt xd

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 11:28:48 No.29740357 Report

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>>29738578
Obviously Ubers. Maybe low tier Uber like Reshiram but too strong for OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 11:29:59 No.29740374 Report

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>>29738752
how the fuck is suicune not a box legend but kyurem is? Pokemon crystal is a main series pokemon game and suicune is the box legend

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 11:30:09 No.29740375 Report

Quoted By: >>29740399

>>29739123
>Bisharp used Knock Off
>Lunala used Roost/Moonlight
I can play this game to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 11:31:30 No.29740399 Report

Quoted By: >>29740425

>>29740375
Bisharp's knock off deals more than 60% of Lunala's HP with multiscale

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 11:33:00 No.29740425 Report

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>>29740399
not burned :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 11:42:43 No.29740603 Report

Quoted By: >>29740700

>>29740425
>doing so many outpredictions just to justify your mon is not shit

>Lunala used Will-o-Wisp
>Bisharp ate Rawst Berry
>Bisharp used Knock off
>252 Atk Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Mew: 338-398 (76.6 - 90.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Situation 1
>Lunala used Will-o-Wisp
>Bisharp used Knock off
>252 Atk burned Bisharp Knock Off vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 228-270 (51.7 - 61.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>76.6+51.7= OHKO

Situation 2
>Lunala used Moonlight (not 100% HP)
>Bisharp used Knock off
>252 Atk Bisharp Knock Off vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 456-540 (103.4 - 122.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 11:47:54 No.29740700 Report

Quoted By: >>29740726

>>29740603
252 Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Lugia: 361-429 (75.5 - 89.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 SpA Lugia Focus Blast vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 576-680 (212.5 - 250.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Done with the lowest possible value for each stat of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 11:49:30 No.29740726 Report

Quoted By: >>29740742

>>29740700
>Focus Miss

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 11:50:56 No.29740742 Report

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>>29740726
>Nerfsharp

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 11:52:25 No.29740768 Report

Quoted By: >>29740810

>>29740742
>SR nor spikes exist

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 11:54:18 No.29740810 Report

Quoted By: >>29740823

>>29740768
>switch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 11:54:33 No.29740815 Report

Quoted By: >>29740976

Assuming 135/120/80/135/110/100:
>252 Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 8 Def Multiscale Mew: 346-408 (84.1 - 99.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
>0 SpA Mew Hidden Power Fighting vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 300-356 (110.7 - 131.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Bisharp needs a broken Shadow Shield to oneshot offensive Lunaala.
>252+ Atk Black Glasses burned Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 224 HP / 252+ Def Multiscale Mew: 169-201 (36.1 - 43%) -- 96.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
Physically defensive with access to Wisp and Roost styles all over Bisharp regardless of its moveset, as long as Shadow Shield wasn't broken.
Dark types can easily put it in a bad position with broken Shadow Shield and then try to pursuit trap it, but require hazard support to do their job and even then can be crippled on the switch, so they're more of revenge killers / trappers than counters. Unless this thing has barren as fuck movepool it's going to be completely busted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 11:54:57 No.29740823 Report

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>>29740810
>not forfeiting

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 11:59:41 No.29740922 Report

Quoted By: >>29740947

>>29739109
This fucker better get moonlight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 12:00:41 No.29740947 Report

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>>29740922
>inb4 no moonlight like Incineroar not getting sucker punch nor knock off

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 12:02:07 No.29740976 Report

Quoted By: >>29741047

>>29740815
Remember that Sucker Punch is 70 BP now, though that doesn't change the point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 12:05:00 No.29741047 Report

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>>29740976
Already took this into account. Would've needed 120 def EVs to take an 80BP sucker punch from full and live, but only 8 for 70BP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 13:24:30 No.29743505 Report

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>>29738974
Most Uber mons have non-uber checks and counters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Nov 2016 13:34:19 No.29743806 Report

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>LO Weavile OHKOs Rayquaza
>Scarf Tyranitar OHKOs Ho-Oh
Lets just start unbanning everything because 4x weaknesses exist

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