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Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 22:38:44 No.34306875 View View Reply Original Report

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Giovanni said fighting you was nostalgic so is the main timeline but got his hands on another mewtwo or is he from a timeline were Red loses

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Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 22:40:18 No.34306892 Report

Quoted By: >>34306920 >>34307014

I believe it was confirmed the villains are from worlds where they won precisely BECAUSE the player characters didn't exist in those world, so Red technically never lost except at the whole actually existing thing.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 22:43:58 No.34306920 Report

Quoted By: >>34307014 >>34307023

>>34306892
Why did he find it nostalgic tho that what i wanna know

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Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 22:55:11 No.34307005 Report

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The villains are from timelines where the main character either doesn’t exist at all, or isn’t a trainer to begin with. Pretty much all of them specifically state “If there was a trainer like you in my world things would be different”.

The idea is that (for the sake of the multiverse we’ll call this Rainbow Giovanni) Rainbow Giovanni went unchallenged in his mafia dealings since Red didn’t exist to stop him in his home universe, caught Mewtwo, and somehow gathered enough resources and knowledge to be able to willingly hop between dimensions whenever he pleases. The events of Goldenrod Radio Tower never happened to Rainbow Giovanni because he was never defeated.

Using this power he was able to hop to dimensions where other villanous leaders got their goals accomplished because their heroes weren’t there to stop them.

So Rainbow Maxie/Archie decimated their worlds but before they were about to die from the ocean/fissure Giovanni took them.

Cyrus commited genocide on a pretty much universal scale. Ghetsis rules Unova with an iron fist and most likely killed N for his dragon. Lysandre wiped out billions of people. All of them went totally unchallenged, and all of them would have insight for Giovanni to further gain power and multiversal domination.

The caviat is that whatever tech Giovanni had to dimension hop, Colress was able to duplicate to send these villains back to their own worlds permanently. Those worlds are still fucked.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 22:57:02 No.34307014 Report

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>>34306892

Im pretty sure the Admins only said they accomplished their goals and that was it. Not that there werent player characters in their world.

>>34306920

He probably fought and beat Red. Barring that he probably feels nostalgic for other reasons like how space/time travel affects your memory I think Anabel said.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 22:58:20 No.34307023 Report

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>>34306920
Watch Pokemon Origins for a better understanding. Giovanni was once a trainer with a starter and a journey; youth uncorrupted. This implies he wasn’t always evil. A challenging battle to an unchallenged and authoritarian mafia leader would no doubt make him nostalgic for simpler times to when he was a good person who battled for reasons other than domination.

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Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 23:00:09 No.34307033 Report

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>>34307014
No, its directly stated through dialogue that the trainers didnt exist at all. No Red, no Brendan, no Hilbert. Totally unchallenged. Go through the dialogue on youtube if you want to be reassured.

And he feels nostalgic because he was ocne a trainer himself, who wasnt evil. Rainbow Giovani never met Red

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Anonymous Mon 27 Nov 2017 23:44:32 No.34307543 Report

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>>34307033

No, its not directly stated. We only have a vague quote to go by and it can be interpreted a number of ways.

>“If there was a trainer like you in my world things would be different”.

That doesnt necessarily imply Red didnt take on Rocket and lose, any more than it implies he fucked off and took up another hobby. If Red failed to invade Silph, Giovannis plan would still remain unaffected.

Therefore it still logically stands, there wasnt a trainer like you in his world.

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