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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:11:50 No.42104188 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>42104207 >>42104229 >>42104253 >>42104417 >>42104670 >>42104771 >>42104797 >>42104848 >>42104868 >>42106293

Give me some actual reasons to buy SWSH. If you make solid points and a sound argument, I'll post my receipt with the games.
Please note: If you're thinking of posting "It's shit don't buy lol fuck shill trannies!" or "It's great! Buy it! Fuck dex trannies!" You need not apply.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:12:56 No.42104207 Report

Quoted By: >>42105247

>>42104188
some of the new pokemon are cute like eldegoss

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:13:17 No.42104217 Report

Quoted By: >>42104266

If you need reasons then go and buy it, stop wasting your time here.

Everyone here, including myself will tell you to not buy it because you're going to waste your money. If you want to waste your money, go for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:13:47 No.42104229 Report

Quoted By: >>42104266 >>42104346

>>42104188
It's fun and pokemon. If you like pokemon, then play it. If you don't then don't.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:15:04 No.42104253 Report

Quoted By: >>42104705

>>42104188
Why she turn into a neko?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:15:56 No.42104266 Report

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>>42104217
It's only 60 dollars, if I can get a weeks worth playing it segmented then it would be worth it.
>>42104229
This is a poor argument, I'm not a drone who claps his hands at anything pokemon. What is "fun" about it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:17:20 No.42104292 Report

Quoted By: >>42104415 >>42104466

I'd say wait out for Eternal Diamond/Vast Pearl or Maximum Sword/Maximum Shield
Those games will likely be much better.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:19:31 No.42104323 Report

Quoted By: >>42104415

>looking for a reason to buy something
I don't know why you would do this but sure.

If you like most pokemon games, you probably will enjoy sword and shield for the duration of your playtime, because it plays just like most pokemon games do. It's a little easier than most of them, although arguably not as easy as x/y were, so if easier than the average pokemon game is a turnoff for you and you don't do self imposed challenges, maybe you won't enjoy it.
Do you also want reasons not to buy it or do you just want the pro side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:20:11 No.42104339 Report

Quoted By: >>42104376 >>42104415

Because of things like guaranteed 4 perfect IV max raid battles and nature Mints getting into competitive battling has never been easier.

That's about the only reason I can think of

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:20:40 No.42104346 Report

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>>42104229
>t.mareeple

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:22:42 No.42104376 Report

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>>42104339
I mean "has never been easier" is slightly misleading since it's been and still is easier on sims, which have lots of other advantages to them, but for cart competitive yes it is easier than ever.
well there's also hacking but you know

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:24:38 No.42104403 Report

Quoted By: >>42104430

its on par with b/w1. Another version would elevate it to god tier in all honesty

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:25:19 No.42104415 Report

Quoted By: >>42104488 >>42104725

>>42104292
I was thinking this originally
>>42104323
I'm just interested if someone will give me a genuine perspective on why they're worth buying based on their own experiences.
>>42104339
This one is pretty interesting to me as USUM made a leap toward making comp more accessible for people like me and now SWSH is taking it further. However, showdown makes this being a big deal almost irrelevant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:25:24 No.42104417 Report

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>>42104188
It's riddled with flaws, but I did enjoy playing through it. That said, it only entertained me for about two days before I got sick of how sloppy and half-assed it is, and I'm probably never going to pick it up again.

If you're asking for excuses to justify buying it, you might as well, but your money is better spent on any of the other big Nintendo titles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:26:22 No.42104430 Report

Quoted By: >>42104542

>>42104403
Care to elaborate ?

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:28:26 No.42104466 Report

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>>42104292
this is what im doing

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:30:12 No.42104488 Report

Quoted By: >>42104545

>>42104415
>I'm just interested if someone will give me a genuine perspective on why they're worth buying based on their own experiences.
well I've given you my perspective based on my experience, which is that it was perfectly enjoyable to play. it doesn't do anything better than other pokemon games though and I do mean that, I can't think of a single feature that's the best in class for the franchise. maybe camp over refresh/amie?

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:33:48 No.42104542 Report

Quoted By: >>42104599

>>42104430
both are inherently flawed games, both try way too hard to tell a story thats flawed in a multitude of ways, both polarizing after they releases, etc. B/W1 was saved by how good 2 was, and that will probably happen with Swoosh. They’ve already setup a sequel with Bede’s arc.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:33:58 No.42104545 Report

Quoted By: >>42104594 >>42104623

>>42104488
Max raids are the most fun I've had playing pokemon. Except when I keep running into fucking Delibird.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:36:11 No.42104594 Report

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>>42104545
whatever floats your boat I guess, max raids don't interest me one iota, I don't even see the appeal. I also play competitive on sims, if I really feel like playing wifi I might hit up one of the ditto giveaways or learn to inject on switch or something, but honestly wifi battles aren't that appealing to me over sims either since sims are way, way faster and the game isn't quite pretty enough to make up for that difference

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:36:46 No.42104599 Report

Quoted By: >>42105131

>>42104542
In your opinion, What are black and white's flaws and how are they comparable to SwSh's flaws?

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:37:43 No.42104623 Report

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>>42104545
raids are boring and dog spam

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:40:19 No.42104670 Report

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>>42104188
>You can change a pokemon's nature
>Parent pokemon can get egg moves
>max raid battles
>pokemon camp and curry
>new pokemon
I haven't played them but these are pretty much the main reasons to buy this game if you wanted to

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:42:20 No.42104705 Report

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>>42104253
Komi-san.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:43:38 No.42104725 Report

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>>42104415
>wait out for Eternal Diamond/Vast Pearl or Maximum Sword/Maximum Shield
>I was thinking this originally
Then just fucking wait for those games. Wait to see if swsh for whatever reason doesn't get sequel/third versions to buy the originals

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:47:01 No.42104768 Report

Quoted By: >>42104935

The soundtrack is really really good and to me, the best part of the game. I don't think it's the best OST in the series but it's still amazing. (Although I don't think there are any songs that are like Ultra Necrozma/Zinnia/Steven theme's level of amazing.

The characters (besides Hop) are really endearing and their designs are top notch. However, seeing as how this is a Pokemon game, they're obviously not complex and lack depth compared to any other RPG.

The Gym Challenge and Gym Battles are, in my opinion, fantastic. They really give a sense of grandeur that wasn't present at all in other games in the franchise. Seriously, despite dynamax being a stupid mechanic, it makes the Gym Battles truly epic.
Epic as they may be, they're still easy and so is practically the whole game.

Also the game IS short. Unless you plan on playing competitive or raid battling (which is also cool) it's one of, if not the, shortest Pokemon game.

Post game doesn't exist.

Customization is awesome. Arguably the best in the series.

And there are a lot of good QOL changes to many parts of the game.

Competitive seems to be in great place currently, though I wouldn't exactly know since I don't play. Regardless, GF is doing a good job of making it easier to breed and actually participate in the scene.

Wild area is basically a giant route with different Pokemon and one Day Care. Your enjoyment will depend on how much you like to catch and raid. (Personally, if not for the raids, I'd say the wild area is pretty boring)

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:47:09 No.42104771 Report

Quoted By: >>42104935

>>42104188
VGC is looking pretty interesting if you're into that sort of thing. The games themselves are pretty fun because for once I felt like the main story revolved around being a trainer. Raid battles are pretty fun until you get stacked, which is pretty easy to do. I have 120 hours and have not yet completed the dex.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:48:45 No.42104797 Report

Quoted By: >>42104935

>>42104188
If you want to buy it, buy it. No one else can at all accurately tell you whether or not to do so because even if you agree on something you likely don't agree to the exact same extent making their opinion worthless to you.

This is why all reviews are worthless trash.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:51:37 No.42104848 Report

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>>42104188
guaranteed responses:
>P E R S O N A L L Y, I love/hate these games due to [soundtrack, dex, story shit/good, etc]
I for one dont like what gamefreak is doing, but I cant tell you if (you)'ll enjoy it, neither will any one else in this shitty board

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:53:01 No.42104868 Report

Quoted By: >>42104935

>>42104188
This is one of the most retarded threads ever. I don't have to convince you to do shit. You make it look like people benefit from making others buy Pokémon games.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 04:57:20 No.42104935 Report

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>>42104768
Thank you for contributing with this very candid response! However it's very middling, so I'm undecided, however you've given me some great insight as what yo expect.
>>42104771
I saw the early usages and they looked very diverse, surprisingly.
>>42104797
>>42104797
>>42104868
Why even reply ? Are you lonely ?

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 05:07:38 No.42105131 Report

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>>42104599
Well in totality from a gameplay perspective both b/w1 and sw/sh are functional pokemon games, with sw/sh being a little bit superior if you're a competitive minded player.

The flaws come in when you consider what they represent as products. Gen 5 was a polarizing soft reboot with pokemon designs that are kinda just bad versions of kanto mons. It tries to tell a story that is epic in scope, but also comes with trademark bad pokemon dialogue, rushed character development, nonsensical antagonists, Ghetsis invalidating the main theme of the game, the E4 basically just exists and basically do nothing the entire game which was weird. It had a good idea for a story but failed to deliver on all the major story beats.

SW/SH is much the same way with the dexcut, and lackluster content. There was a lot of innovation with dynamax, the removal of the E4 in favor of a tournament format, but like SW/SH they just can't write well. SW/SH wanted to be a game focused on a cast of characters that developed through the story, but ultimately failed for the same exact reasons b/w1 did. Marnie/Bede/Hop were too rushed. It tried to be a shounen but failed.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 05:14:49 No.42105247 Report

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>>42104207
BW had cute mons like Whimsicott. Didn't stop it from flopping.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 05:18:29 No.42105299 Report

Quoted By: >>42108322

best graphics out of any pokemon game
>detailed scenery
>expressive towns
>best mons since gen 4 started ruining them
>cool animations
>20/10 overworld
>shiny hunting is bearable thanks to overworld
>character development with Hop
>NEETs BTFO by GTS removal forcing interaction between people
>VGC is the comifiest it's ever been
>Dynamax taps into the Kaijukino that founded this franchise
>Gigantamax is visually better than megas in every way
>Gym battles are the most exciting its ever been
>QoL improvements everywhere
>Fake fans dabbed on over their failed boycott and are left peddling crackpot conspiracy theories
>Wild area is introduced as the best mainline feature to be introudced in a first version game
>comfy g-max hunting makes the postgame the longest its ever been in a first version
>Soul put in everywhere (whistling to attract route 5 Corkvisquire, running into beartrap Stunfisk and Clicking on mushrooms to make it glow)
>Early access to wild area makes the game have the most available teams pre-first gym in existence
>Rememberable gym leaders like Opal and her obession with pink
>beautiful soundtrack
>Sneaky Pebbles BTFO into extinction
>lighthearted story that pretends to be serious for the sake of memes
>Old mons like Corsola, Arcanine and Blastoise are usable again
>Shillmons like Garchomp, Greninja, Zoroark and Piplup were BTFO immensely
>skippable tutorials
>powercreep like post-split hidden power, Mega Fug and Lando were removed
>gyms are maximum hype unseen before
>Wild area certifies as the most compact area of interactive and catchable pokemon in the history of the franchise
>Bede becomes the first rude, confident rival since Johto
>Is fun

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 06:48:01 No.42106293 Report

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>>42104188
Why should anyone try to convince you to do anything? Either you don't want it or you do.

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Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 12:14:19 No.42108322 Report

Quoted By: >>42110246

>>42105299
>detailed scenery
What?
>cool animations
WHAT?
>xharacter development with Hop
W H A T?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 16:22:02 No.42110246 Report

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>>42108322
I don't have time to type out detailed response to your Whats, but the battle animations in this game were the best out of any mainline game. There was great character development with Hop and the tag team battle with him against the legendary was the greatest battle in any Pokemon game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 27 Dec 2019 16:49:34 No.42110542 Report

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OP I was on the fence and broke down and bought it myself.
Am I glad I did? Indifferent, really.
Some points to consider:

>The story is really boring and the "villain" comes out of nowhere at the last minute
>Side characters don't get resolutions aside from Hop
>There is a town with literally two houses and another town with no houses--it's just a hallway with a gem at the end of it and this really annoyed me
>Huge cities aren't that huge and have very limited buildings you can enter
>Graphics look like upscaled 3DS graphics
>Battle animations really are mediocre
>You can no longer catch Pokemon higher level than what your badge count dictates
>No more caves or puzzles routes are short and direct

Some good points:
>leveling up Pokemon is easy with EXP candies
>Breeding for perfect nature, IVs, and training EVs are no longer necessary thanks to certain items
>TRs (technical records) let you teach certain more rare moves to a Pokemon once and you can obtain them from raids in addition to TMs which don't break

To me, personally, it feels like a watered down Pokemon game.
You'll enjoy it in a shallow way if you really love Pokemon games but don't expect a lot.

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