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>>43565391
Gen 4 meta > B2W2 meta > Gen 3 meta > B/W meta > Gen 7 meta > Gen 2 meta > Gen 6 meta > Gen 1 meta > Gen 8 meta

Once weather became unbanned again, and was instead limited, that was the best part of the Gen 5 meta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 01:18:46 No.43565421 Report

Quoted By: >>43565431 >>43571799

>>43565394
Actually based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 01:19:20 No.43565424 Report

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>>43565416
typical casual trying to look cool ranking metas he's never played highly

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 01:20:47 No.43565431 Report

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>>43565421
>ip count didn't rise
samefag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 01:22:18 No.43565441 Report

Quoted By: >>43565448

>>43565424
I started playing comp Pokemon on Shoddy Battle almost 15 years ago. The first meta I played was Emerald, and I was playing D/P before Garchomp and Salamence were banned.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 01:23:51 No.43565448 Report

Quoted By: >>43565459

>>43565441
sure thing kid

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 01:25:07 No.43565452 Report

Quoted By: >>43571799

>>43565431
But from whom?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 01:26:50 No.43565459 Report

Quoted By: >>43567477

>>43565448
t. only played late Gen 5 and beyond and thinks Fairy was a good addition

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 03:19:47 No.43566155 Report

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>>43565394
10 pokedollars have been deposited into your account

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 07:11:53 No.43567477 Report

Quoted By: >>43568326

>>43565459
>he doesn't think Fairy was a good addition
Seethe more, dragoncuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 10:32:28 No.43568326 Report

Quoted By: >>43568417 >>43570003

>>43567477
>The most powerful type in the game 3 gens running was a good addition

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 10:36:26 No.43568341 Report

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>>43565381
I miss your brave bird spam smogonbird

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 10:51:13 No.43568407 Report

Quoted By: >>43570353

>>43565394
>BSS over anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 10:52:16 No.43568415 Report

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>>43565381
Why is Talonflame so based?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 10:52:45 No.43568417 Report

Quoted By: >>43571394

>>43568326
Fairies are nowhere near as strong as Dragons were at the height of their popularity

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 16:16:00 No.43570003 Report

Quoted By: >>43571408

>>43568326
>The most powerful type in the game 3 gens running
What do you mean? The most powerful type has been the most powerful for 7 gens, ever since it was added in gen 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 16:18:04 No.43570021 Report

Quoted By: >>43570127

>There will never be a Natdex again
>There will be a new meta for every game that is released from now on
Imagine Sinnoh remakes coming out and having a different pokedex and is incompatible with SwSh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 16:32:51 No.43570127 Report

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>>43570021
>Sinnoh Remakes
>Pokedex and region are restructured to have less Pokemon from gens 1-3 in it
>Several “Sinnoan” Regional form Pokemon are added in including alt forms of some newer Galarian form Pokemon like Sinnoan Mr. Rime and ones from games later than gen 4 like Garbodor
>Many are given G-Max forms but not the starters- of gen 4. Instead the gen 6 starters who are given to you midgame are given g-max excluding Greninja who only has a g-mac as Ashninja.
I’d expect bs like that genuinely

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 16:36:43 No.43570155 Report

Quoted By: >>43570173

>>43565381
>muh stantler
Every time with you NPCs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 16:40:04 No.43570173 Report

Quoted By: >>43570187 >>43570292

>>43570155
>If I call him npc I win
Cry more smogontranny

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 16:43:28 No.43570187 Report

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>>43570173
>if I call him tranny I win
Cry more person who likes VGC

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 17:01:36 No.43570292 Report

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>>43570173
This isnt about winning. It's about laughing at how much of a loser you are

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 17:09:05 No.43570353 Report

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>>43568407
>muh 6v6 switchfest over anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 17:10:08 No.43570358 Report

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>>43570187
VGCcuck is the correct term

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 17:19:25 No.43570409 Report

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>>43570358
I called him a VGC player. The cuck part is implied.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 17:20:31 No.43570414 Report

Quoted By: >>43571055

>>43570353
Switching is too scary for aspies

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 18:39:38 No.43570999 Report

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NatDex OU would be one of my favorite metas ever if they removed Z moves.
But I also like using the unique Z moves like Porygon and Kommo-O so I'm a little conflicted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 18:46:16 No.43571055 Report

Quoted By: >>43571442

>>43570414
heh. It's disorienting for the normies, only autists like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 18:47:37 No.43571072 Report

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>>43565394
unbased

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 18:49:40 No.43571087 Report

Quoted By: >>43571324

competive has been a bloated, uninteresting mess since weather wars ruined gen 5
there is a brief period of fun to be had pre-bank where people are experimenting and using unusual options because of the limitations
but after things open up it becomes the same boring shit every gen

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 19:10:00 No.43571242 Report

Quoted By: >>43571307

>>43565390
Whatever consensus regarding how Metagross can be walled or has counters is immediatly discarded because of two factors
1)Metagross has humongous bulk, Mega-mence tier bulk where you hit it with a super effective move coming off a super strong mon and Megagross lives like it ain't shit
2)ALL of Metagross' moves have hax chances, any hopes of walling Metagross are discarded when Meteor Mash gives it +1 or T.Punch paralyzes or Zen Headbutt flinches
3)Bullet Punch slaps the hell out of every scarfer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 19:18:01 No.43571307 Report

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>>43571242
also i know i said 2 factors but listed 3 but that's just a bonus from #1, hardly any scarf revenge killer can OHKO M-Metagross (those that do just force it to switch out and are also weak to Gross' teammates), sucker punch does pitiful damage and Bullet Punch sends Weavile straight to the trash bin it came from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 19:20:24 No.43571324 Report

Quoted By: >>43571606

>>43571087
low elo

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 19:28:09 No.43571394 Report

Quoted By: >>43571646

>>43568417
Fairies are far stronger than Dragon ever was. Dragon had 2 pretty crippling weaknesses with some good resists, Fairy has no weaknesses, an immunity, and resists 3 very good offensive types. Dragon was only SE against itself, Fairy is SE against 3 types, and all of the types that resist it are weak to Ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 19:29:46 No.43571408 Report

Quoted By: >>43573147

>>43570003
Steel is the best defensive type in the game, yes, but it has a dedicated trapper with Magnezone, which is very good at killing the type, and it sucks offensively. While it resists a lot of types, it's also weak to some of the strongest offensive types in the game so it's all balanced out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 19:33:07 No.43571442 Report

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>>43571055
Switching is an integral part of the game, and is why entry hazards exist. If you don't like switching, invest in some wallbreakers. Slower Pokemon that no one wants to switch into are great for breaking apart defensive teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 19:50:08 No.43571606 Report

Quoted By: >>43571782

>>43571324
yeah, I haven't bothered since gen 6 prebank because the metas are so awful
I'm voluntarily low elo because smogon metas just get worse and worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 19:55:31 No.43571646 Report

Quoted By: >>43571755

>>43571394
Thats nice in theory until you realize users and moves is what made Dragon broken in the first place. If Fairy had highly spammable 120-140 base STABs with managable drawback and several 600+ BST OU legal mons then maybe you’d have a point.

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Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 20:07:18 No.43571755 Report

Quoted By: >>43571797 >>43571967

>>43571646
Dragon doesn't have any good moves. Both Draco Meteor and Outrage have huge drawbacks, which are why their equivalents in other types are never used. The next most powerful attacks in the type are base 80 power with no secondary effect. Dragons themselves are extremely powerful, but that's due to them being psuedo legendaries, and not because the type is OP. Tyranitar has been the only psuedo consistently in OU since inception, and its 2 of the shittiest types in the game combined.

Dragons didn't need Fairy to nerf them either. Simply make Ice immune to Dragon (poikilotherms die in the cold) and it would've been enough to balance both types eminently. All without having to add Fairy and ruin the meta for 3 gens running. Especially ruining based Bug types a generation after we FINALLY got some good ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 20:10:39 No.43571782 Report

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>>43571606
You should have pointed out that you're giving opinions on metas you haven't played earlier.
That way your opinion can be discarded more easily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 20:12:30 No.43571797 Report

Quoted By: >>43572115

>>43571755
>thinks dark is bad
>bugcuck
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 20:12:58 No.43571799 Report

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>>43565452
There's only one way to know
>>43565421
>>43565394

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 20:32:47 No.43571967 Report

Quoted By: >>43572081

>>43571755
Dragon Rush zoomie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 20:45:29 No.43572081 Report

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>>43571967
>Dragon Rush
Your IQ is as high as its chance to hit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 20:48:34 No.43572115 Report

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>>43571797
Dark IS bad, though. Especially since Pursuit was removed for no good reason. One of the best designed and balanced moves in the series and GF nuked it from orbit. Not to mention it was terrible pre Gen-4 due to being a special type, and it being offensively the same as Ghost, just without Normal being immune.

Dark didn't need or deserve a nerf in Gen 5, it was already one of the weaker types and I have no Earthly idea why GF decided to nerf it and Bug. Fairy is just Game Freak's attempt at shitposting in real life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 21:09:39 No.43572328 Report

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Tiers are based because it means cancer Pokemon like Clefable and Corviknight are kept out of lower tiers where Pokemon like Toxtricity or Appletun can truly shine

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 14 May 2020 22:35:45 No.43573147 Report

Quoted By: >>43575241

>>43571408
The fact that an ability that only traps Steel can make a Pokemon OU is a testament to how good Steel is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 02:44:20 No.43575120 Report

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>>43565381
Natdex OU > watching paint dry > Gen 8 OU > VGC 2020

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 02:57:59 No.43575241 Report

Quoted By: >>43576056

>>43573147
No, it's a testament to how powerful trapping is when teams are built for a meta based on switching

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 04:57:00 No.43576056 Report

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>>43575241
Trapping is definitely great, but do you really think an ability that traps any other singular type would make a Pokemon instant OU material the way Magnet Pull did for Magnezone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 15 May 2020 07:20:09 No.43576855 Report

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>>43565381
Gen 1 OU >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else

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