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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 20:33:25 No.54663586 View View Reply Original Report

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Everyone rags on the Johto gym leaders for using a lot of Kanto Pokemon, so why does nobody ever say anything about the Kanto gym leaders? 100% of their teams are Kanto Pokemon.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 20:34:07 No.54663589 Report

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>>54663586
best post otb rn

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 20:34:11 No.54663590 Report

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>>54663586
because pokemon peaked at kanto and only gets progressively worse after.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 20:48:29 No.54663664 Report

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>>54663586
Based

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 20:52:43 No.54663691 Report

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i swear to fuck sabrina used to be considered the 5th gym leader and koga was the 6th. does anyone else know what i'm talking about?

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 20:53:01 No.54663696 Report

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>>54663586
True I bet these hacks didn't even play since gen 1

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 20:53:49 No.54663705 Report

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>>54663691
She is, it's just that Koga is typically done first as her team is more threatening than his.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 21:55:57 No.54664127 Report

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>>54663691
Yeah, I do. I had to read your post several times because I was confused and Koga is always 6th in my mind.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 22:14:01 No.54664247 Report

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 22:24:34 No.54664297 Report

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>>54663691
You can technically do everything Surge Erika Sabrina and Koga in any order I think.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 22:26:21 No.54664308 Report

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>>54664297
You can do Giovanni 3 before all of those too. The only one that requires another HM to reach is Blaine which is only usable after beating Koga.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 22:34:29 No.54664346 Report

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>>54663691
>>54664127
Sabrina has always been 6th on trainer cards, as well as in both gym leader castles.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 22:46:26 No.54664407 Report

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>>54664308
Doesn't Giovanni have to be last? I thought he wouldn't open the gym until after you had the first 7 badges.

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 22:51:21 No.54664431 Report

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>>54664407
Wait can you not? I swear I've done Giovanni before Sabrina before

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Anonymous Wed 11 Oct 2023 23:09:28 No.54664522 Report

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>>54663586
Actually, how many Johto Pokemon do they use in Gen 2?
At the very least Blaine has Magcargo, which shows his good taste.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 00:04:16 No.54664836 Report

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>>54663586
surge giovanni sexo

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 00:07:49 No.54664853 Report

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>>54663586
snot flew out my nose from how hard I exhaled reading this thanks asshole

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 00:10:55 No.54664870 Report

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>>54663586
you jest, but the Gen 1 gym leaders have genuine have problems that no one ever talk about
>Brock has no rock moves, (Though to be fair he is the first boss so I'll cut him some slack)
>Misty only has one evolution line on her team (RBY)
>Surge only has one Pokemon (Yellow)
>Erika's Tangela only has two moves, two normal types moves, one of which is Constrict which has a whopping BP of 10 (RB)
>Koga's team has embarrassingly low diversity considering he's Poison user in a generation where over one fifth of all Pokemon are poison type). In RB he has two Koffing with the same exact moveset, and in yellow he only a single family and 3 of his pokemon unevolved.
>Sabrina only has one family and her Abra only know Flash and Teleport (Yellow)
>Blaine's has unevolved Pokemon despite being the 7th gym leader (RB)
>Giovanni' has no moves that deal ground type damage, his entire team has almost no STAB moves at all, and he has early game fodder moves like Poison Sting. Reminder that not only is he the final gym leader, but he's also the final boss of the main villain arch in the game.
>There is a massive level jump from Erika (29) to Koga (43) in RB, and in Pokemon Yellow its even worse (32) to (50)!.

So to answer the real question "Why are the Kanto gym leaders immune to criticism while the Johto leaders are stuck being a laughing stock?" Unironically because GenWun Privilege. .

>>54664522
>Blaine has Magcargo
>Erika has Jumpluff and Belossum
>Sabrina has Espeon
>Janine has Crobat and Ariados
>Misty has Quagsire

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 03:56:52 No.54665961 Report

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>>54664431
You're thinking of the Silph Co invasion Giovanni, not the Gym Leader Giovanni.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 04:00:48 No.54665982 Report

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>>54664870
no it's because just like nobody actually takes Kalos seriously, nobody takes Kanto seriously
Johto and Unova's fanbases force people to critically examine the claims they make about their greatness, whereas genwunners are both a priori ridiculous and functionally impresent

Nobody (here) is claiming RBY or FRLG are the greatest Pokemon games of all time

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 04:13:57 No.54666043 Report

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 04:27:53 No.54666122 Report

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>>54664870
Most of the issues with Yellow can be chalked up to anime references.
That said, why the fuck does she have the entire Abra line then? She should either have a single Kadabra, or Abra and Kadabra.
Like, I get it, that would be extremely easy, but it's not like difficulty is really a consideration for the others either.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 04:53:32 No.54666252 Report

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>>54664870
The massive level jump from Erika to Koga makes perfect sense given the sheer amount of shit that opens up after getting the Pokeflute. Routes 13 through 18 have a ton of trainers to fight for EXP, plus Koga's Gym, the Karate Dojo and if you still need EXP the Rocket Grunts at Silph Co. In addition Sabrina's Pokemon are around the same level as Koga, so they were obviously aware of this sudden spike and kept Sabrina at the same level to avoid making her too difficult.

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Anonymous Thu 12 Oct 2023 10:03:08 No.54667421 Report

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>>54663586
Great fanart.

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