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Reminder that Pokémon’s compshit is an unbalanced force that only exists to shill a handful of Game Freaks favorites and CHARIZARD. The only reason CHARIZARD isn’t ruining the game with another broken form in Gen 9 is because Game Freak’s retardation made SV into such a glitch fest that they couldn’t code Terastal Charizard Dragon form.

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Anonymous Thu 30 May 2024 22:06:37 No.55967542 Report

Quoted By: >>55970215

>>55967439
Power creep is real.
Still best bird for the cry and design alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 May 2024 22:09:21 No.55967556 Report

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>>55967527
wasn't it running double edge anyway?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 May 2024 22:16:16 No.55967585 Report

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>>55967509
Unprecedented levels of powercreep this gen + Tera hurting it more than it helps.

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Anonymous Thu 30 May 2024 22:16:19 No.55967587 Report

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Anonymous Thu 30 May 2024 23:53:54 No.55967963 Report

Quoted By: >>55968026 >>55968083 >>55968276 >>55969864

>>55967527
What was the thought process behind removing the moves that they did

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 00:08:26 No.55968026 Report

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>>55967963
Brainlets will say it was for balance reasons. Obviously it was due to incompetence and time constraints.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 00:21:17 No.55968083 Report

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>>55967963
To harm Pokemon that already had shallow movepools to begin with. Curiously enough, this did nothing to strong Pokemon.

Really makes you think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 00:22:50 No.55968094 Report

Quoted By: >>55968287

>>55967541
holy gem

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Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 01:04:12 No.55968241 Report

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>>55967527
I fail to see how Falinks would counter Staraptor :^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 01:13:59 No.55968276 Report

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>>55967963
Game Freak reworked happiness in S/S and couldn't figure out how to make Return/Frustration work so they cut them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 01:15:41 No.55968285 Report

Quoted By: >>55968306

>>55967439
Higher tier than 2 separate Articunos. Gen 9 PU could compete on the level of Gen 7 UU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 01:15:48 No.55968287 Report

Quoted By: >>55968598

>>55968094
>unbalanced force that only exists to shill a handful of Game Freaks favorites and CHARIZARD
People don't want to admit it but Charizard is a shitmon without its mega evolutions or other special snowflake shit like how the community mocks Meganium and Flareon for being one.

Yes I did drag down a fan favorite to a level that the community placed Meganium and Flareon at, so burn me at the stake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 01:22:19 No.55968306 Report

Quoted By: >>55968656 >>55969876

>>55968285
That's actually true. There are a bunch of RUBL/UU Pokemon from Gen 7 UU in Gen 9 PU

>Gligar
>Heracross
>Rotom-H
>Zoroark
>Meloetta
>Froslass
>Magneton
>Venomoth
>Tornadus-I

All RUBL/UU 2 gens ago. Gen 9 PU would stomp Gen 4 OU.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 02:43:33 No.55968598 Report

Quoted By: >>55971484

>>55968287
>People don't want to admit it but Charizard is a shitmon without its mega evolutions
Literally everyone knows that though?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 03:03:35 No.55968656 Report

Quoted By: >>55972005

>>55968306
>>Heracross
Going from being able to oneshot the whole OU tier after a single SD in gen 4 to being PU in gen 9 is fucking grim

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 11:32:11 No.55969847 Report

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>>55967439
Talonflame is only 1 tier higher.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 11:36:24 No.55969864 Report

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>>55967963
They took away Tyranitar's pursuit back in gen8 so it wouldn't drink wine from Dragapult's skull, it's all a conspiracy part of Big New Stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 11:39:50 No.55969876 Report

Quoted By: >>55971457

>>55968306
Have you SEEN Gen9 UU? There's no way things like Quaquaval or Cornerstone wouldn't be banned in Gen7, hell Gen8 probably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 11:47:24 No.55969899 Report

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>>55967439
gen9 isn't canon. the best bird is either skarmory at home or prenerf smogonbird anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 13:47:48 No.55970213 Report

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How bad is Talonflame now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 13:49:22 No.55970215 Report

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>>55967542
SCREEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 13:55:13 No.55970225 Report

Quoted By: >>55971455

My "best bird" will always be Archeops...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 13:56:04 No.55970228 Report

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>>55970215
My nigga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHV8qx9Fhew

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 20:02:05 No.55971455 Report

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>>55970225
Archeops is best bird in the Almost Any Ability format (when it had Magic Guard).

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 20:03:05 No.55971457 Report

Quoted By: >>55971488 >>55971709 >>55971947

>>55969876
Quaquaval could've made it into Ubers if it were released in Gen 6 or 7.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 20:08:34 No.55971484 Report

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>>55968598
Yet I don't see it constantly mocked for being one like with Flareon.
It's hypocrisy and double standards and boy does it show with certain Pokemon.

>pokemon with bad movepool, gets mocked
>pokemon but popular with a bad movepool, is idolized
>pokemon with bad typing, shitty potshots and dead jokes for eternity
>pokemon but popular with a bad typing, everyone feels sorry for it

All Pokemon are equal. A Pokemon like Bastiodon is on the same level as Miraidon in terms of being a Pokemon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 20:09:49 No.55971488 Report

Quoted By: >>55971568 >>55971947

>>55971457
>Gen 6
A big maybe
>Gen 7
With Tapus, Magearna and Kartana infesting the tier? No

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 20:25:37 No.55971568 Report

Quoted By: >>55971665

>>55971488
Tyranitar/Keldeo is one of the strongest combos in Gen 6 since TTar can Pursuit Trap all of the Pokemon that counter Keldeo. Quaquaval would've made that combo absolute bullshit.

Point taken on Gen 7, though. Toxapex makes its life a living hell, and Gen 7 is Toxapex at its best.

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Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 20:48:27 No.55971647 Report

Quoted By: >>55971652

>>55967439
Corviknight and Pelipper are the only birds that aren't in the absolute bottom. Talonflame used to be the best UU mon in this gen at one point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 20:49:53 No.55971652 Report

Quoted By: >>55971659

>>55971647
>Hawlucha
>Zapdos
>Skarmory
>Mandibuzz
>Tornadus-Therian

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 20:52:30 No.55971659 Report

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>>55971652
>Single stage
>Legendary
>Single stage (also usually late game)
>Late game mon
>Legendary

None of these fill the same category of early game birds as Pidgeot and Fearow and all its variations later. That's what I was meaning with bird.

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Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 20:53:45 No.55971665 Report

Quoted By: >>55971924

>>55971568
>Toxapex
The bell tolls for us all

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 21:02:05 No.55971709 Report

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>>55971457
>Gen 6
If Quaquaval got popular then people would use Talonflame more often and Mega Sableye might not have been banned. Mega Latias plays with Quaquaval.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 22:05:48 No.55971924 Report

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>>55971665
Toxapex didn't die, it was murdered. Loss of Knock Off and Scald + recovery nerf slaughtered it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 22:09:47 No.55971947 Report

Quoted By: >>55972037 >>55972054

>>55971457
>>55971488
Why is urshifu-water banned but quaquaval uu?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 22:23:26 No.55972005 Report

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>>55968656
Nobody uses Heracross. It's all about Breloom and Scizor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 22:23:58 No.55972006 Report

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>>55967439
fanfic meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 22:32:30 No.55972037 Report

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>>55971947
1. Punching Gloves give it a better alternative to Protective Pads
2. Terastallization

This motherfucker can 2HKO fully physically defensive Toxapex if you do something as simple as switching in Pelipper.

252+ Atk Punching Glove Tera Water Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 248 HP / 252 Def Toxapex in Rain on a critical hit: 135-162 (44.5 - 53.4%) -- approx. 33.6% chance to 2HKO

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 22:36:57 No.55972054 Report

Quoted By: >>55972095

>>55971947
Quaquavel relies heavily on getting a kill with Aqua Step to become threatening. It's like a baby version of Ash-Greninja from Gen 7, only without the crazy utility/coverage Ash-Gren had. Plus, it can't switch into much. Greninja at least had a Psychic immunity in a tier where Psyspam was popular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 22:43:58 No.55972095 Report

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>>55972054
it also needs tera/specific coverage to break through pex or the slowtwins. it’s either one or the other. galar-weezing also doesn’t take much from aqua step and azumarill resists literally every move it knows besides insane shit like electric tera blast

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