>>17936824I won't stop psychoanalyzing the psychoanalysts, but just for you I'll include the cute Moris with it
>>17936245I don't have a name for Group 4 yet, because they're actually just deadbeats, and them teaming up with the other three groups is as likely to be a complete accident on their part or a misunderstanding on the reader's part as it is to genuinely be a cynical transaction where they see each other as allies of convenience (Groups 1-3 largely base their shitposts on what's most likely to rile up Group 4, and Group 4 will sometimes see the other 3 as allies of convenience when outnumbered by regular deadbeats.)
They're similar to every other deadbeat out there in that they like Mori more than they dislike her, they consider her an oshi if not the kamioshi, and currently self-identify with the term and with Mori herself.
What sets them apart from a regular deadbeat is that they really would prefer to be Calliopeople instead.
The common thread I see from posts made by actual deadbeats, not shitposting or falseflagging, is that they would be happier, Mori's career would be healthier, etc. if she showed more restraint and set clearer boundaries on herself as an entertainer. The classic example is "don't talk about men onstream, it's not interesting and makes me feel like sloppy seconds" but that's just the one Groups 1-3 like best. In this split, the same theme is just as likely to manifest in things the rest of the board doesn't care about, such as:
>Why does she keep making freelance MVs, they drain her enthusiasm and her clients are exploiting her>If she would just tardwrangle her chat for once maybe they'd stop calling her dad>I don't care if she's friends with grifters and anitubers, but why does she have to bring them up constantly?>Kinda sucks how she spent the whole T3 stream talking about an appointment instead of about us>If she has time to collab with Roberu, then she definitely has time to collab with Luna, god damn it!>I really hope she doesn't do a bunch of streams/collabs/projects independently of her reaper body, doesn't she realize how much happier this job has made her?As separate as these points are, they're all variations on the same single criticism: Mori doesn't properly keep dissonant/distasteful content far enough away from her Hololive persona, and she/me/we would be better off if she curated that more carefully.
Emotion: Fear. While Ficklebeats mourn what they once had, these deadbeats cling to what they might lose. They're on the front lines of what the fanbase (here, at least) is willing to put up with and genuinely believes in the crowd's ability to influence their oshi...for better or worse.
Favorite Word: "Yes-men", their shorthand for how no one else has the will or the wisdom to point out this problem. Note this is the only group who puts the focus on deadbeats instead of on Mori herself; they tend to see her as mistaken/mislead while attributing malice to deadbeats who like what they don't.
Other Signs: Actually Loves Mori, complains about her when Groups 1-3 don't notice, mentions specific missteps instead of calling her a bad person
