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>>35137537
If you're looking at subs and twitter likes, sure. Have you looked at her CCV lately? Fucking Sora has a more loyal fanbase these days. Her music is utter dogshit and even the AI is smart enough to see it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 18:18:41 No.35137780 Report

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>>35137401
Music gets a lot of subs fast, but fan retention is decided by personal charisma, also most people who sub never bother unsubbing even if they never watch the content

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 18:20:02 No.35137862 Report

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>>35137623
>She’s supposed to be a fucking streamer not a musician!
She was literlaly hired due to her music chops and made it clear from the very beginning that she was in it to get a bigger audience for her music and would focus on releasing music.
If Cover didn't want it that way, Cover wouldn't have hired her in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 18:21:34 No.35137955 Report

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They don't watch her streams is how.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 18:22:30 No.35138008 Report

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is now a 5k shitter. disgusting

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 18:24:48 No.35138102 Report

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>>35137537
Other vtubers also put out a lot of music as well. The most influential factor that is that she was the only mainstream EN vtuber at the time of her debut that focused on rap during COVID with the Hololive branding.

>>35137862
Cover most likely hired her because of her interest in rap music culture. Not many music oriented vtubers were focused on rap which gives variety to the Hololive music scene.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 18:25:23 No.35138129 Report

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>>35137862
Yes, so she is fucking scum leeching off of the hard work of idols.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 18:27:05 No.35138212 Report

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>>35138129
>idols
off yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 18:28:02 No.35138254 Report

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>>35138212
The JP’s ARE idols, you insolent buffoon!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 18:30:33 No.35138372 Report

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>>35137401
the real answer is the EN market share is simply just bigger than the JP market share

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 18:40:41 No.35138813 Report

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>>35138372
*was
EN market was bigger but the western world simply follows trends and there's basically no real otaku culture, vtubers are basically a part of otaku culture now in japan

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 19:09:47 No.35140095 Report

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>>35137686
>Have you looked at her CCV lately?
What does that matter in music though?
>Fucking Sora has a more loyal fanbase these days
I would argue that deadbeats are also very loyal fanbase but they are just small.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 19:15:44 No.35140348 Report

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>>35140095
Her music is making a fraction of the numbers it used to do
Her mistake was thinking that her music and streaming is separate, and it wasn't, the main reason people kept listening to her music was because of the fact that they liked her as a streamer

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 20:25:10 No.35143180 Report

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>Subaru speaks Japanese and caters almost exclusively to Japanese viewers because her English isn't good enough to completely communicate with a global audience
>Japanese isn't a world language

>Mori speaks slight Japanese and good English, sings Japanese AND English songs and talks to a global, English-speaking audience
>English is a world language and the most popular one

It really wasn't that hard to connect the dots here, was it? If Subaru didn't have JP debuff, she'd bend over Mori and have her squeal like a pig like she bent over Okayu.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 20:36:54 No.35143631 Report

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>>35137401
She signed on with an American music label and was on Rolling Stone magazine. She's illuminati now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 20:42:24 No.35143844 Report

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>>35137401
It's a mystery, since nobody ever watches her stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 22:15:40 No.35147256 Report

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>>35137623
AZKi and IrYS are supposed to be musicians. Plans change.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 22:18:20 No.35147370 Report

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>>35143844
>Consistently breaks 100k after vod views roll in.
It's morally right to dislike Mori, but to pretend like normies don't like her is pure retardation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 22:28:12 No.35147824 Report

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>>35147370
Anon she's the third most subscribed hololive member, it's not exactly an achievement that she can get middle tier numbers with those kind of subs and the kind of numbers she used to pull.
Also she was factually the least watched myth and would have been the least watched EN if it wasn't for Kronii

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 22:35:56 No.35148128 Report

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>>35147824
>Also she was factually the least watched myth
Show your work, and /#/ is not a valid source.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 22:37:14 No.35148183 Report

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>>35137401
Same way gura has 4 million dead subs. Botted subs and subs gained from the covid lock down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 22:41:04 No.35148359 Report

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I don't think this is very helpful since Westerners basically subscribe to channels regardless of whether they are interesting or not.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 22:44:05 No.35148484 Report

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>>35148359
This too. Most westerners especially American burgers only fully commit to one girl while subbing to the others in support but not watch their actual content.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 22:45:28 No.35148540 Report

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>>35137401
Better streamer gets better number

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 22:47:22 No.35148611 Report

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>>35148128
https://twitter.com/Holo_Data/status/1576045533285601280
You know /#/ just steals numbers from other autists right

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 22:52:33 No.35148829 Report

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>>35138102
There music doesn’t get out into karaoke machines and played on jp radios

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 22:54:54 No.35148955 Report

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>>35140348
Only on YouTube. CDs are still selling well, her concerts on both ends are selling out, she got a Fortnite skin as dd, her Spotify numbers are good. She’s still on the radio and in karaoke machines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 23:00:37 No.35149198 Report

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>>35137401
Difference in content, also consider that Subaru gets easy 20k views in her zatsudan streams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 23:02:48 No.35149292 Report

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>>35148955
You can't exactly gauge her popularity from that because a very dedicated fanbase can easily sustain buy everything and sustain her for life, aside from the Fortnite skin which is mind-boggling why it exists (I can only assume one of the marketing staff was a deadbeat)
I won't argue she's failing but she's simply not as popular anymore

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Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 23:06:11 No.35149448 Report

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>>35137401
Here's why

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 23:26:46 No.35150475 Report

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Music, she gets mogged by everyone at being entertaining, doing good streams, the numbers on stream, but music made her growth faster than the others

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 23:41:26 No.35151202 Report

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>>35137401
Pleddit bots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 23:42:58 No.35151262 Report

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>>35137401
Plebbit bots, don’t equal viewers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 23:47:44 No.35151500 Report

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ez.
rap niggers
and reactTubers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 13 Oct 2022 23:53:02 No.35151757 Report

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>>35149292
e-Begging, after she failed using Gura’s clout.
https://streamable.com/oazzk4

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 01:10:50 No.35155701 Report

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>>35137401
Because she is actually entertaining

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 02:31:39 No.35160614 Report

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>>35137401
female audience bonus

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 02:39:45 No.35161170 Report

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>>35137401
Because EN 'fans' subscribe like retards for anything. Same reason mori and gura are the queens of deadsubs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 02:45:47 No.35161547 Report

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>>35137623
Yet she still somehow streams more than most of the other EN members. The chuuba people hate the most is much more active than the people who complain about their oshi being lazy. Ironic, isn't it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 03:08:23 No.35162902 Report

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>>35137401
cute

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 03:21:12 No.35163640 Report

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>>35137401
How many people speak english worldwide? How many people speak Japanese?
Fuck Mori anyway, she doesn't deserve the fame she has.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 03:56:01 No.35166028 Report

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>>35137401
EN is simply a wider market than JP. If you're asking why she has so many subs but does so poorly in views and CCV. Might be because her fans are her falling out hard.
Speaking as a former deadbeat, I realized she's not an endearing rapper with gap moe, she's just plain retarded most of the time. And I've seen people sharing the same thought.
It could be a good thing for her though considering she's putting a lot of effort in her rm now. Filtering the not very dedicated fans here in Hololive will leave her the yes man that she could easily transfer to her rm

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 04:25:39 No.35168270 Report

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>>35137401
People like her songs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 06:02:43 No.35173681 Report

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>>35137608
How are the stars doing?

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Anonymous Fri 14 Oct 2022 06:06:54 No.35173863 Report

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>>35173681
better than the last stars JP gen but struggling to reach 200K

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