>>97444971>it doesn't have to be trying to improve the human condition to be classified as art.I never said it did. You again just have this habit of making shit up that I never said. For someone who bangs on constantly about communication being the most important thing, you fucking suck at it.
>The earliest art in known human existence are simple cave paintings of things that early humans simply observed such as animals and the natural world in front of them with no apparent higher purpose other than depicting it for its own sakeRight. So you agree that the art they created had no intention to communicate anything, they just did stuff for stuff's sake (by the way you're actually wrong, lots of anthropologists believe that depictions of hunting had religious or educational significance), yet you still regard it as art for some reason?
>is simply incorrect.So simple, yet you can't explain it.
>Also you don't understand what postmodernism is and are just regurgitating the bastardized current culture war talking head version of the term that you probably cobbled together from Jordan Peterson videos and /pol/ memesRandom assumptions about me with no basis. I've hated postmodernism for a lot longer than /pol/ has existed.
>Postmodernism was an art movement in the early 20th century after the second world warNo it wasn't. Post modernism was first defined in the late 19th century. Postmodernism as a system of thinking was defined after WW2.
>The term then went on to be loosely connected to feminist sociology bullshit when a bunch of gay sociology fags kept trying to appropriate the term for their movement (which is where current reactionary culture war types have got this idea from).Nigger it's inherently connected to the art form because it follows the same principles of rejection of everything that came before it, everything is subjective, everything is interpretative, everything is a social construct, social constructs are inherently evil, there are two groups which the oppressed and the oppressors.
Post modernist art is a propaganda tool for post modernist philosophy and politics.
>But 'postmodernism' is and was never a rigid specific ideology with stated goals of destroying the status quo or being anti-human and some kind of political social engineering agenda as you are trying to describe and simply stating that you prefer one music genre over another has nothing to do with it.Cool and Hitler never intended to kill all the Jews. It doesn't matter what the original intention of something is, only what it becomes and the effects of it. Postmodernism is an inherently anti-human ideology and postmodernist art is a propaganda tool. If you can convince people that art is interpretative, that's one step closer into turning people into the perfect consumer. The perfect consumer is someone who is not born with any latent biases, identity, ingroups, or otherwise. It is a person who can be molded into any political thought structure based on their consumption habits.
>>97445091Why? How? I could write in the book itself exactly what I want to communicate to them. But that could be a complete lie without any rhyme or reason to existing. I just put it in because I don't know. They don't know I wrote for enjoyment. They don't know if I wrote for any reason. Therefore it cannot be defined as art.
You definition is completely arbitrary and therefore ceases to function as a definition because you can't actually define anything with it.
