>>20144908i tried playing eu4 a dozen of times and i always get bored in the first 15 minutes and turn it off even though i have 500 hours in goi4, maybe it has something to do with the fact that you need like a 150 expansions to actually play the game the way it's supposed to be played and it's so bad they've even implemented some sort of subscription to have all the dlcs for cheap by not owning them and not playing like a thousand bucks to buy them all so i think victoria 2 is a better game because of this very specific criteria, also the same thing with stelaris since it's a fun game but it's so empty and bland and not challenging without the dlcs i can't play for more than 1 hours (and no i can not niggerpirate the dlcs, that also removes all the challenge and satisfaction in obtaining them)