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>Yet despite the familiarity of Saturn’s connection with the Sun, its rationale is still far from understood. So classicist Beck: “Why Saturn should be identified with the Sun is far from obvious.” Moreover, was the matter one of identification or of mere association? The designation of the real Sun in one omen as “Šamaš of the day” (Šamše u-mi) shows that Babylonian astronomers perceived a contrast between the “Sun of the day” and a “Sun of the night”, which must clearly have been Saturn. Accordingly, in an old (but still the most thorough) discussion of this subject to date, Jastrow argued that Saturn was not supposed to be physically identical with the Sun, but of all planets was thought to resemble the Sun most closely. Nevertheless, some of the passages cited above seem to clearly identify the two. In whatever way, the logic by which Babylonian scribes linked Saturn to the Sun remains elusive

>Writing in 1905, Franz Cumont traced the linkage of Saturn and the Sun to another folk-etymology. Starting from the common Graeco-Roman understanding that Kronos or Saturn equalled the Syro-Phoenician god El, the similarity of the latter’s name to Hēlios would have suggested an affinity between Saturn and the Sun. The “solar syncretists” of the later Imperial Age may well have fostered the idea, even though the association of El with the planet Saturn is hard to prove from Semitic sources. Nevertheless, as before, such wordplay cannot shed any light on the Babylonian association of Saturn and the Sun, which antedates the Graeco-Roman one by centuries

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