>>17762789>>17762961Nah, you should both read chuang tzu. there is no such thing as progress, just endless wandering with endless tips and turns. at one time humanity are animals grovelling in the dirt, then they are like gods, then all of a sudden they're in the dirt again. they make slaves of eachother, break free, make slaves of machines. now we might become slaves to the machines, and soon enough we'll be back on top again, but never for long, blah, blah blah blah blah