>>17682085>they do, but for me, its all about what is the most efficient and quickest methods for success in topics such as spiritual enlightenmentA Vajrayana enjoyed who's aiming to pull things off within this lifetime kek.
Honestly if you find a good Lama you'll be fine and unlike other esoteric orders they're friendly enough and will spill the beans on everything if you know how to ask.
>And with jews and kaballah, its all overly verboseThis is true and once you reach a certain level you wind up with highly specific Rabbinical schools where it's "what the fuck am I casting" tier. In short, it's built for and by autistics. Honestly too it's why I recommend people to get into Neoplatonism via Plotinus and see where it goes since it's more sensible.
>They wont even give you access to certain material unless you are over 40True and not true, if you know how to bully Rabbis they'll hand it over. As to why that rule is there though, look up Sabbatai Zvi and the Frankists. It was put in place given their autism.