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genuine MDE fans would cite fishtank's lower moments as what truly blackpilled Sam after he got back on his feet, Sam wasn't exactly killing it with The Great War type content, but Fishtank had some fairly high legal costs (and the people are a mentally mixed bag, some bad contestants, Jet going full sexpest)
The Harland incident was "bad" mostly because it released the same week as Extreme Peace (wp2) a project that was gassed up for half a decade and of the 20 or so skits maybe 4 had some real charm. Nick's reactions during the podcast also made people think at the time that Sam was BOMBING but afterwards they kind of hinted at hating this boomer industry type guy. They are already blacklisted there will never be a majorly produced movie or televised show with the 4 ever, although Eric (despite being construction God) literally deserves a chance at a real role. Eric can act, Charls as well they have some real cultivated skill in humor and timing, Sam is a great writer but his political lens removes a lot of the humor. I dont blame Sam because the blackpill just does this to jokes and humor you dont really feel like joking when your Maslow Hierarchy is sacrificed for freakshows
