>>11088158Both sides are retarded and the fact that Bethesda didn't include the obvious third option of telling Ulfric and Tullius to bend over and take it up the ass while you unite Skyrim under your own banner is the game's biggest failure (of many). By the time you've finished the major sidequests you're a lord in every hold, the anointed leader of almost every guild and clan operating out of the region, and the personal champion of half the gods in the pantheon... the fact that you're expected to bend the knee to either of those two chucklefucks was always absurd.