>>13240358OP check out this post
>>13240360and these links
>>13240362>>13240364>>13240365>>13240367>>13240368Start with the proof hell is not forever links, then go to the 2 gospel links
Also the dead are really dead
Ecclesiastes 9:4-10 King James Version (KJV)
4 For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion.
5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead KNOW NOT ANY THING, NEITHER HAVE THEY ANDY MORE REWARD; for the memory of them is forgotten.
6 Also their LOVE, and their HATRED, and their ENVY , is now PERISHED; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
7 Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works.
8 Let thy garments be always white; and let thy head lack no ointment.
9 Live joyfully with the wife whom thou lovest all the days of the life of thy vanity, which he hath given thee under the sun, all the days of thy vanity: for that is thy portion in this life, and in thy labour which thou takest under the sun.
10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is NO WORK, nor DEVICE, nor KNOWLEDGE, nor WISDOM, in the grave [sheol] , whither thou goest.
Lets see, dead people, those in Sheol (which is Hades is the new testament, where the Rich man from the Parable of the Rich man and Lazarus resides, it is NOT a literal story about the state of the dead, but a coded message about Jews missing out on the kingdom, parables are designed to hide the truth from those it is not given, that includes the overwhelming majority of Christianity) KNOW NOTHING, dead people have NO REWARD (ergo no heaven and no hell, if you are in heaven /abraham's bosom you have received a big reward), dead people have no WORK so they do nothing, they have no KNOWLEDGE, so they know nothing, and they have NO WISDOM whatsoever. They have no LOVE, no HATE, and NO ENVY (NO EMOTIONS).