>>11996734If you want to pay less than 200k for an actual programmer you better have no "literal corporate hell" red flags (like HR boomers) and be somewhere other some urban hellscape like socal where cost of living is 5x national average. Vegas you can get non-grad white and ne-asians former-hobbyist programmers who can do fizzbuzz for 40k, realtime networking for 60k, full stack for 75k. If they have any experience in the industry you're going to have to pay double at least if they get a hint that someone with power over them doesn't know what Steam is.
