>>12904747On the "Lucifer" issue:
First of only gnostics and luciferians say that Lucifer is Jesus due to Jesus declaring to be the morningstar, but that doesnt hold up (go into that)
The link to the Bible comes usually from Isaiah 14 where the latin vulgate uses the term "lucifer" to translate the hebrew "Helel" meaning "shining one" and seems to refer to the planet Venus as morningstar as does the term lucifer and Phosphorus (which is the greek term used for "lucifer" here in the greek septuagint).
Now people say
a) That lucifer is Jesus due to him declaring himself to be the bright morning star in revelations 22, but there are different morningstars, lucifer/phosphorous/helel are specifically Venus, Revelation does use neither of these terms in any known to me version.
2. That the Isaiah verse refers to human king being introduced with
>3 On the day that the LORD gives you rest from your pain and torment, and from the hard labor into which you were forced, 4you will sing this song of contempt against the king of Babylon:However we have for once in Psalm 82 explaining how the Sons of God, the angels and pagan gods are appointed in the divine assembly to rule over the nations (which I referenced in
>>324878409) and turned wicked showing that they are appointed rulers (like kings) and in Ezekiel 28 the king of Tyre is refered to as "the annointed Cherub" and how he was in Eden showing the King of Tyre is not a human, so maybe the King of Babylon isnt either.
Deuteronomy says
>8When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, when He divided the sons of man, He set the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.showing that the boundaries are made according to the appointed "sons of gods", angels/pagan gods over the nations as rulers
