>>16316242>i mean we could just tell ourselves that its the demons making us do bad shit and not us but it comes off as a copeyeah i agree, i don't have a strong definition for what they actually are and people already have incentives to do bad shit anyway like i said but also yeah like you mentioned it's not even about people choosing to cause suffering for their benefit but people could just be born into really bad situations and they'd suffer without any need for people or demons to inflict anything on them
>what would be the point of manually doing shit for the same result while that generator already does what you need?it could be about surplus, like how when you wake up you feel really groggy and you're not at 100% but sometimes you feel like you have infinite energy, it could be like a spectrum for them too, the generator could currently be giving them a sufficient amount for a kind of groggy level but they'd prefer higher outputs
>just because there may be those demons fucking with us doesnt make us good on our ownyeah when i've been writing these that's what it always seems to go back to, humans would probably choose to create suffering anyway even without external influence, unless those evil urges themselves are inherently demonic influences, which idk i guess they could be but then that also kinda undermines the idea of free will a little bit too because then it's like people don't really ever want to do bad things but we're just under the influence of demons to do them and people were only going to choose to do good things, but actually i guess i can see how that could make sense, i mean that's basically what they say right, that we're corrupted by the demons, like how linen would get stained or contaminants in water. it just depends what the demons are and what they do, like you mentioned