>>18671696I worked in Japan for a year, company stationed me there to train some folks but I ended up staying on longer because it turns out it was a really good place for me to advance.
A lot of Japanese guys are ultra beta. Ex. I would hook up with girls. I'd just ask them out to lunch and see where it goes and shoot my shot. I slept with a couple of them and dated one for a while and we broke up when I had to leave. Here's the thing. The guys, they do not ask women out. They have no idea how to talk to girls. I heard multiple times that guys places they had seen usually had figurines everywhere and manga, and were the smallest units they could get. And the guys expect women to be really subservient. Anyway, she had a guy mad that she was sleeping with me. I thought he was an ex at first but they never dated. She was a virgin and the guy had liked her since highschool but only ever barely talked to her or grabbed dinner but never made a move or asked her out or anything. We're in our 30's remember. This guy had like 15 years. He has no right to be mad. She had limited her relationships because of it too. He was really telling her off so I had her cut him off. I told her he's a loser and she should do what's best for herself and not worry about him. She's married now to someone else and they look happy online. I'm glad for her. I just wanted someone to hook up with but I think I was a positive influence. It's easy to call a guy beta that doesn't make a move in highschool or the 15 years after, but she didn't exactly cut him off and was too polite to escalate it herself. It just became this norm that her interest was some really shy guy.
We have simps and orbiters in the US, but this was normal enough that her whole social crowd accepted it and more than 1 of her other friends had a similar situation. Imagine the state of men that women would tolerate this.
This to me was the biggest cultural difference.