>>9927956I was banging out 250 gram bags of kratom in 4 or 5 days for a while, WDs are more psychological than physical imo. You are better off without it but damn could it make me productive as hell even with only like 15~grams in a day. Phenibut is way worse than alcohol as far as WDs go imo, but also the feeling you get on pheni is much more *similar* to alcohol than kratom is. Either way I only mentioned both of those because they're way easier on your wallet than alcohol. I haven't used kratom in a few weeks, nor have I used anything else besides cigarettes