>>7062949Politically speaking, I'm not some puritan straight-edge cuck. I like tobacco products, especially organic/natural ones. I think they're fine in moderation. But both tear the fuck out of your mouth, dip especially is rough on your gums. It's marginally healthier than smoking, but having to spit into a bottle while driving or sitting at my computer is annoying. I'd much rather light a nice dart than throw in a digger.