>>16322395>and people do make them do bad shit too sure but its just that nature is already like thatwell that's the thing and i'm just playing devil's advocate (ha ha) for all of these things but even though animals already naturally fight each other dogfights are proof that it can be way worse with external influences. sure wild dogs might already fight each other naturally but the thing about dogfighting is that you're forcing them to do something they probably won't otherwise do, not all dogs naturally attack each other to the death but humans can influence them and change them so that they do, so that could be a similar situation to the demons. yes humans innately can do some bad things some times but demons can make us do them way more than we normally would, just as we do with dogfighting. then there's still also the idea about how the "evil urges" themselves are demonic influences but i skimmed a bit and i saw you talked about it later so i'll wait to see what you say
>if u go to hell just say well the demons were influencing me to do bad stuff dude i didnt have a sayyeah if the demons can really completely control people then the idea of hell is pretty unfair for those people but if they can't and they can only influence and people have the final decision on things then it's different, and i saw you talk about this later too so i'll wait for that too
>you go and eat babies because demons influenced you to do it and you couldnt help it does that make you the sinful onethis is actually an interesting point, you brought up jail in the next sentence and hell earlier, both predicated on responsibility for actions, and i think i saw you say some stuff about this later too but fuck it i'll just type some now, basically both work on the premise that usually regardless of your upbringing influences and shit you are "responsible" for your actions, sure it's different if someone points a gun at your face and forces you but charlim
