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When I was a boy my mother told me to be a simp, polite, humble. If I did this I would get a girlfriend. I confronted her about this advice a few years ago, telling her it's nonsense, that women fall for dark triad chads not kind hearted losers. She said "I know, I just told you that so you wouldn't get involved with girls. You father was a bad boy and broke my heart" Yadda Yadda
I was totally knocked back, imagine. She'd ruined about a decade and more of my childhood being a fucking loser incel just so I wouldn't have sex with a woman, it was intended precisely so that I would "settle down" later in life to be a beta provider. Unbelievable. Simply unbelievable.