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>Half the replies in this thread are people saying "Man up" or otherwise seething at OP
Currently I believe the solution is beatings for failure, rather than just for intentional misgivings. if the thread would like to give me a better more reasonable solution then go ahead, I would like to save beatings for when they are important for the relationship, but if all you're going to do is seethe and moan (like a woman) then the beatings must continue
