>>11065460Fundamentally, I don't believe people self improve from neetdom very often, especially not for long periods of time... at best its a phase. Humans are an extremely social species; isolation is terrible for individuals. Men have been reared since the dawn of agriculture to be glorified beasts of burden; with nothing to do we rust. Beyond this, we don't live in a people friendly environment - if my brother had lived in nature for 12 years living off the land, eating well, getting sun light, drinking clean water he'd probably be a lot better off, but no. He lives in a cave, eats industrialized poison, drinks pharmaceutical run off, sees the sun weekly.