>>13866618its unironically genetics and women hold less fat on their faces naturally, sounds like incel cope but it happens to be true
of course, in a country like america, when you look at the numbers, most people with fat faces have fat faces because they are fat, regardless of circumstance. but that's a somewhat separate issue
as to the OP topic (which is off-topic to the board but whatever), all of these shops move the jaw and maxilla, human beings have such an absurdly uniform preference for ramus mandible and maxilla shape/size that you really can't unsee it once you notice it
