>>22975301I am not a religious person but in the scope of "God owns you" (the one you are replying to) things make perfect sense and trying to argue within this scope just makes you look like a retard. For example, free will can absolutely exist within this scope (e.g. slaves are not free, but are always free to chose). You can either reject the scope (i.e. not accept the idea that God owns you) or you can accept the scope and argue other shit that is just marginally related to their dogmas (e.g. discuss and condone how faith is based on fear). All of this to say that when you say shit like "then free will surely cannot exist" you sound like a desperate, seething retard just saying anything, as illogical as it is, to win the argument.