>>10723081>However, the true church is not the material externals, it is not the colored buildings, it is not the people, it is the TRUTH of God. The dogmatic pronouncements and the supernatural faith.A convecticle of laymen and parish priests does not make the Catholic Church. You have no means of even electing a Pope, you have none of the pre-1958 Cardinals, and a Pope cannot come down from Heaven unless you reject Vatican I and all the entirety of the Tradition leading to it such as Papal Bulls, Canons of other Ecumenical Councils, since dogmas regarding the perpetuity of the Papacy were infallibly defined there. Reject Vatican II and you admit it's over, accept Vatican II and you admit Jesus lied.
