>>17528902I live on the west coast and I've worked in tech off and on since the 90's. I've had actual MtF post-op fags in my town since the late 80's and working with them since the late 90's. All the old school ones know they're just fucked up men. They don't make any bones about it. They also know that almost nobody wants to be in a relationship with them but it makes the happy to have chopped off their dick and live the rest of their life with cats and a house full of scarves and shit so I don't care. At no point were they ever idiotic enough to claim to BE women. Wendy Carlos types. Creeping savant hermit faggots.