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tsutsu kun, i think whataboutism is a valid way of responding to bakas. for example if some american says "lmao look how badly russia is losing, look at all the propaganda (shows some clip of a channel that is literally a propaganda channel and every russian knows it always has been one)". one could respond to this "your country is even worse. they blatantly lie on mainstream channels." theyd then respond with "uuuuh retard this is so whataboutism" if theyre redditors, i think