>>12230143yes, it's ussually in the ripped gym rats that OP talks about. the guys that used to punch protein shakes and test shots but can't do it anymore after 30 because they have to go to work and look after the family so no time for gym anymore. And than their bodies go hayware. Seems like abusing your body for 10 or 15 years takes it's toll. And make no mistake, modern gym routines are an abuse on the body, people aren't supposed to naturally look like they are meat bulls. My great grandparents did back breaking agricultural labour and none of them looked so jacked as these people now.
