>>17262332and yes you don't need to be 'virgin' to be incel since that's just what normies categorize us by the way we are without the real meaning behing 'involuntary celibate' - in a way it does fit since it has been an evolution of primitive normie 'us-then' divide in ostracism of 'virgin' then 'loser' then 'nerd' then 'incel'