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Anonymous ID:D93RkSoo Mon 20 Apr 2020 19:35:06 No.10150574 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>10150614 >>10150696 >>10152746 >>10152856 >>10152905

I just want a friend to die with rn im so fucking sick of being positive god just kill me already

fuck all you robots I literally can't form a connection with any of you

fuck all you egirls who ruin my friendships by choosing to gain orbiters and shitting on other females

Fuck this stupid hell.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:cPLb9Sk0 Mon 20 Apr 2020 19:37:01 No.10150578 Report

Quoted By: >>10150609

Pasta

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:K/AWdQY3 Mon 20 Apr 2020 19:37:19 No.10150581 Report

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kot

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Anonymous ID:D93RkSoo Mon 20 Apr 2020 19:45:00 No.10150609 Report

Quoted By: >>10150624

>>10150578
Ich hoffe dass du sterben wirst. I'm posting here because I'm angry and I want everyone to die too

Unchi

Unchi ID:k1SDC0hh Mon 20 Apr 2020 19:45:41 No.10150612 Report

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Baste

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Anonymous ID:fJpCa0Qj Mon 20 Apr 2020 19:46:07 No.10150614 Report

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>>10150574

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+LVA5kWF Mon 20 Apr 2020 19:46:50 No.10150617 Report

Quoted By: >>10150629 >>10150652

shit animé

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:cPLb9Sk0 Mon 20 Apr 2020 19:50:50 No.10150624 Report

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>>10150609
Boo hoo

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:k8DcTah9 Mon 20 Apr 2020 19:51:32 No.10150629 Report

Quoted By: >>10150648

>>10150617

Jesus was Jew and Gay

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Jesus was Jew and Gay ID:CB4A1RfE Mon 20 Apr 2020 19:53:03 No.10150636 Report

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sure

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+LVA5kWF Mon 20 Apr 2020 19:56:28 No.10150648 Report

Quoted By: >>10150715

>>10150629
>rezero
>artistic
In what way, dare I ask?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7fgzfuo/ Mon 20 Apr 2020 19:57:31 No.10150652 Report

Quoted By: >>10150660

>>10150617
agreed the mc is too retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fJpCa0Qj Mon 20 Apr 2020 19:59:59 No.10150660 Report

Quoted By: >>10150665 >>10152831

>>10150652
honestly i feel thats what makes rezero great. He's not an overpowered mary sue. He's just an annoying retard reacting how any regular retard would react in his situation. I think its cool

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7fgzfuo/ Mon 20 Apr 2020 20:01:35 No.10150665 Report

Quoted By: >>10150675

>>10150660
you can be a normal person and not be an unrealistic retard

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fJpCa0Qj Mon 20 Apr 2020 20:04:14 No.10150675 Report

Quoted By: >>10150689

>>10150665
yeah sure, but lets be real. Most people are retarded

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7fgzfuo/ Mon 20 Apr 2020 20:06:59 No.10150689 Report

Quoted By: >>10150692

>>10150675
not that retarded, i think tomoya from seems to be an example of someone normal and relatable but then again my dad was fucking shit

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7fgzfuo/ Mon 20 Apr 2020 20:07:16 No.10150692 Report

Quoted By: >>10150784

>>10150689
from clannad*

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:d2YVF20U Mon 20 Apr 2020 20:08:44 No.10150696 Report

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>>10150574
halloooo medeburgerr :DD

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:k8DcTah9 Mon 20 Apr 2020 20:14:39 No.10150715 Report

Quoted By: >>10150733 >>10150800

>>10150648
I unironically find Subaru to be a very interesting character, albeit the only one in the show. The rest of the cast/world might as well be totally interchangeable with any other isekai (though Emilia has some potential), that is to say it's generic but not bad HOWEVER
It also feels like the author/director knows this so there's extra emphasis put on Subaru's actions; I'm pretty sure the only time it switched from his perspective during the whole show was during the last few episodes, and totaled less than 5 minutes. At least when it comes to Subaru, the potential there is being capitalized on by unflinchingly showing you every moment of failure and success he experiences. Though I never found him annoying (if anything his obnoxiousness was endearing to me) so I can understand getting turned off by that aspect.
Also the idea of a protagonist whose singular power and literal lease on life is being granted by the main villain which makes you question to what length she's really manipulating him carries a fair amount of intrigue.
Plus he quoted Eva and Gunbuster man he's just like meeeee

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7fgzfuo/ Mon 20 Apr 2020 20:17:39 No.10150733 Report

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>>10150715
>by unflinchingly showing you every moment of failure
hmmm I remember okabe from s;g failing alot to save the girls but them not spelling out every failure is probably why I didn't grow to hate him

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4GzIueTe Mon 20 Apr 2020 20:25:16 No.10150784 Report

Quoted By: >>10150798

>>10150692
Well in the first season of Clannad, Tomoya was in the right path of becoming a doomer, but then he met Nagisa and everything changed for him.

In Clannad After Story, after the infamous chapter 16, Tomoya becomes a doomer (he starts smoking, drinking, gambling and becomes a wageslave).

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7fgzfuo/ Mon 20 Apr 2020 20:28:48 No.10150798 Report

Quoted By: >>10151952 >>10151960

>>10150784
yup
sounds like me

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+LVA5kWF Mon 20 Apr 2020 20:29:52 No.10150800 Report

Quoted By: >>10150803 >>10151915

>>10150715
So what exactly is Subaru's "potential"? Not going to lie, I dropped the show long before its end, but I still failed to spot anything interesting about Subaru's character other than him not being a generic mary sue. There's barely any depth to his personality and since he doesn't change much after both his failures and successes (at least after those that I've seen), his character overall can be called static I guess, so the only way it can be found interesting to anyone is by being relatable, which is cancer.
>Plus he quoted Eva and Gunbuster
Man I hate when that happens

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7fgzfuo/ Mon 20 Apr 2020 20:32:57 No.10150803 Report

Quoted By: >>10151915

>>10150800
>other than him not being a generic mary sue
i remember him doing like a 180 in just one episodes difference around the last bit of the season like he becomes super smart or some shit

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:k8DcTah9 Mon 20 Apr 2020 20:46:17 No.10151915 Report

Quoted By: >>10151920 >>10152631

>>10150800
Did you see the part where he fucked up during the royal selection? The show kinda takes a turning point after that, he realizes he can't just bullshit his way through everything/rely on luck and decides to actually take the hard path to correct his mistakes. He reevaluates his earlier decisions fueled by egotism, realizes he was too obsessed with the idea of being a hero for Emilia to even acknowledge her perspective (some of the point is combating the beliefs he holds from being an otaku his whole life).
>the only way it can be found interesting to anyone is by being relatable, which is cancer.
Why?
>>10150803
He simply learns how to capitalize on Return by Death.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:k8DcTah9 Mon 20 Apr 2020 20:47:35 No.10151920 Report

Quoted By: >>10151968

>>10151915
>how to properly* capitalize

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4GzIueTe Mon 20 Apr 2020 20:54:12 No.10151952 Report

Quoted By: >>10151960 >>10152007

>>10150798
Have you found a girl like Nagisa from Clannad, or you are just becoming a boomer and no one can help you?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4GzIueTe Mon 20 Apr 2020 20:55:04 No.10151960 Report

Quoted By: >>10151968

>>10150798
>>10151952
doomer* Goddamn!

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Anonymous ID:tABgRoy8 Mon 20 Apr 2020 20:56:29 No.10151968 Report

Quoted By: >>10151978

>>10151920
>>10151960
guys come on the text is right there
proof read once

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:k8DcTah9 Mon 20 Apr 2020 20:58:29 No.10151978 Report

Quoted By: >>10151990

>>10151968
proofread*

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:tABgRoy8 Mon 20 Apr 2020 21:00:05 No.10151990 Report

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>>10151978
i swear to FUCKING god i will do it without fucking lube HYPOCRISY DOESNT MEAN my ideas are bad proofread fuck you

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7fgzfuo/ Mon 20 Apr 2020 21:01:59 No.10152007 Report

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>>10151952
no im just a fucking loser from /pol/ that's given up on the world and also drink and smoke alot

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Anonymous ID:k8DcTah9 Mon 20 Apr 2020 22:03:41 No.10152520 Report

Quoted By: >>10152528

please respond

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:K/AWdQY3 Mon 20 Apr 2020 22:04:44 No.10152528 Report

Quoted By: >>10152548

>>10152520
to what

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:k8DcTah9 Mon 20 Apr 2020 22:07:53 No.10152548 Report

Quoted By: >>10152560

>>10152528
It was for the russki

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:K/AWdQY3 Mon 20 Apr 2020 22:08:40 No.10152560 Report

Quoted By: >>10152570

>>10152548
stop posting my wife eureka

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Anonymous ID:k8DcTah9 Mon 20 Apr 2020 22:10:54 No.10152570 Report

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>>10152560
my bad renton

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+LVA5kWF Mon 20 Apr 2020 22:24:14 No.10152631 Report

Quoted By: >>10152723

>>10151915
>Did you see the part where he fucked up during the royal selection?
Yeah, although that was about the time I dropped it.
>he realizes he can't just bullshit his way through everything/rely on luck and decides to actually take the hard path to correct his mistakes
I guess, but in my opinion it is extremely forced. I mean, there had been absolutely no evidence of him trying to change his own mindset and overcome his negative qualities before, but now due to that single event, no matter how major it was, he just sort of ascends and does a complete 180. I guess it's natural that shit like that would make him contemplate his own life for a minute, but I'd still prefer it to be much more well-integrated into his entire character as well as in the show's narrative in general.
>Why?
Because making characters that just appeal to a certain demographic is always much easier than making complex and multifaceted ones, the kind of characters that cannot be analysed outside of the piece's context.

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Anonymous ID:k8DcTah9 Mon 20 Apr 2020 22:45:28 No.10152723 Report

Quoted By: >>10152818

>>10152631
>due to that single event, no matter how major it was, he just sort of ascends and does a complete 180
Not immediately. That destroys his relationship with Emilia and he spends the next couple episodes acting in the same way he had, thinking everything would work out by doing the bare minimum. Terrible shit happens, he fails/dies several times, THEN there's a whole episode with him reflecting on what happened and deciding to change.
Also I feel it is fairly well-integrated. He is written at the beginning in such a way that he wouldn't question his actual contribution to his successes (he has no life experience after all), he only sees the results.
>making characters that just appeal to a certain demographic is always much easier than making complex and multifaceted ones, the kind of characters that cannot be analysed outside of the piece's context.
I see where you're coming from but not everything merits that kind of approach.

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Anonymous ID:eYXiWBwD Mon 20 Apr 2020 22:49:46 No.10152746 Report

Quoted By: >>10152877

>>10150574
Have you tried
1. Not revealing you’re a girl on the internet for attention
2. Being good or interesting at anything

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+LVA5kWF Mon 20 Apr 2020 23:03:32 No.10152818 Report

Quoted By: >>10152858 >>10152880

>>10152723
>Not immediately
Yeah, but what happened can quite be calles momentary impact. What he does next still is influenced only by that accident without any sort of actual build-up leading to that
> THEN there's a whole episode with him reflecting on what happened and deciding to change
Don't remember seeing this one desu, and since I have no intention of picking up the show again I can't really say anything about that.
>I see where you're coming from but not everything merits that kind of approach
To my mind, a character can be called 'good' when he is an essential part of piece's structure, ergo, not an archetype or a made-up figure, because that's the only way he can organically fit into the piece's compostion.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+v7rgo3W Mon 20 Apr 2020 23:06:36 No.10152831 Report

Quoted By: >>10152858 >>10152890

>>10150660
>He's not an overpowered mary sue
wasn't he really good at hand to hand combat in the first episode even though he was meant to be some relatable nerd?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:QPlaDnZ1 Mon 20 Apr 2020 23:12:14 No.10152856 Report

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>>10150574
when you are going through hell keep going - some British cunt

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:k8DcTah9 Mon 20 Apr 2020 23:12:19 No.10152858 Report

Quoted By: >>10152973 >>10153036

>>10152818
>To my mind, a character can be called 'good' when he is an essential part of piece's structure, ergo, not an archetype or a made-up figure, because that's the only way he can organically fit into the piece's compostion.
>he
Little bit sexist bruv, women can be characters too. I feel this is slightly different to the point you were trying to make before though.
Archetypal characters can work in archetypal pieces. eg. Lupin III. None of the main characters are complex, but it doesn't make them bad.
>>10152831
Pretty sure he got BTFO and needed saving by Emilia, but it's also established that he did a bunch of exercises/maybe weight training as a NEET and was fairly fit.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:GBiw0EdD Mon 20 Apr 2020 23:15:18 No.10152877 Report

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>>10152746
they fail at being good or interesting at anything so they have to reveal they are a girl to retain attention its their own curse

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:k8DcTah9 Mon 20 Apr 2020 23:16:19 No.10152880 Report

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>>10152818
Also I forgot to ask what is a "made-up figure"?
Also, if it's late don't let me keep you up.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JjMGWMFj Mon 20 Apr 2020 23:18:37 No.10152890 Report

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>>10152831
I remember that scene. He was good at hand to hand combat, start winning, then the thugs pulled out a knife and he was screwed.

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Anonymous ID:k8DcTah9 Mon 20 Apr 2020 23:20:56 No.10152903 Report

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I feel like defending Re:Zero this much makes me look like a fanboy. Not the case. It's simply pretty good and nowhere close to a favourite.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:faRSNgoa Mon 20 Apr 2020 23:21:34 No.10152905 Report

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>>10150574
What hurt you man?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+LVA5kWF Mon 20 Apr 2020 23:34:19 No.10152973 Report

Quoted By: >>10153014

>>10152858
>Little bit sexist bruv
In Russian "character" is a male-gendered noun so I guess I referred to it as "he" instead of "they" purely subconsciously
>I feel this is slightly different to the point you were trying to make before though
How?
>Archetypal characters can work in archetypal pieces.
Definitely, I wanted to add that my statements only apply to pieces that are deemed to be more or less original, but I didn't in the end for whatever reason.
>what is a "made-up figure"
I meant it to be a reference to an "unnatural" character who is tied to a piece's problematique very loosely and is generally present just for the sake of external reasons, like, appealing to a certain demographic or just being an icon with little to no ties with the actual plot. For instance, all fan-service characters fall into that category. I'm sorry for not being clear enough, but it's indeed getting pretty late already, so I'm getting more sleepy as well.

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Anonymous ID:k8DcTah9 Mon 20 Apr 2020 23:41:07 No.10153014 Report

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>>10152973
>How?
Because you didn't add that elaboration. Now that you did, there's no problem.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+v7rgo3W Mon 20 Apr 2020 23:45:57 No.10153036 Report

Quoted By: >>10153050

>>10152858
I remember him holding his own against 3 guys at once, but I'm not going to try and argue with a fanboy

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Anonymous ID:k8DcTah9 Mon 20 Apr 2020 23:51:45 No.10153050 Report

Quoted By: >>10153088

>>10153036
NOT THE CASE

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Anonymous ID:+v7rgo3W Tue 21 Apr 2020 00:03:06 No.10153088 Report

Quoted By: >>10153098

>>10153050
don't worry anon, i don't mind if like the show
even if it isn't that good

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:k8DcTah9 Tue 21 Apr 2020 00:04:53 No.10153098 Report

Quoted By: >>10153125

>>10153088
It is pretty good though, anone.
What do you like?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+v7rgo3W Tue 21 Apr 2020 00:13:11 No.10153125 Report

Quoted By: >>10153162

>>10153098
I like kaiji
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buVRVxl1QfY

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Anonymous ID:k8DcTah9 Tue 21 Apr 2020 00:20:51 No.10153162 Report

Quoted By: >>10153183 >>10153197

>>10153125
So do I. You could say there's very little subtlety to FKMT's writing but from what I've seen I think he's a master. Shame you have to know mahjong for half his stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4Te1V3Ck Tue 21 Apr 2020 00:21:30 No.10153168 Report

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when did rem loving leaf become slavshit

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:k8DcTah9 Tue 21 Apr 2020 00:24:37 No.10153183 Report

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>>10153162
Also that's not even the full image.
https://s2.desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/a/image/1535/22/1535224846124.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+v7rgo3W Tue 21 Apr 2020 00:28:27 No.10153197 Report

Quoted By: >>10153205

>>10153162
>Shame you have to know mahjong for half his stuff.
I never read the rest of it or watched akagi for this very reason
maybe I should read some of his other stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:k8DcTah9 Tue 21 Apr 2020 00:31:17 No.10153205 Report

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>>10153197
Kurosawa's supposed to be real good and it doesn't have any games afaik.

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