>>10358737Indeed, to have but to no longer have is worse than never having anything ever at all.
I will admit to something that I have not mentioned in all of this thread. I had a 5 minute cuddling "session" with this girl I knew back when i was younger, I was extremely clueless socially and didn't know what to do, so I managed to fuck up my chance at a relationship, and I haven't had any chance ever since (at least that I'm aware of).
>>10359155I have already been investing myself in other passions/interests, so I can get where you come from with that concept. I am almost ready to accept that, but I don't think I've experienced enough of life yet to call it quits.
>>10359766Ah, well r9k was once a great place for discussion. The modern day cancerous hole that is left behind makes it hard to believe that, I know lol. It is only VERY rarely that anything of value can be found now, if ever.
Thank you for explaining surrogate activities. I can definitely say that I mostly only ever do things because I hold some kind of passion for them, and wish to do them because of my enjoyment aligning with productivity (like attempting to learn the basics of a new language, for example, which is both productive and enjoyable in my opinion).
To further expand on what I said initially, dealing with surrogate things: I genuinely do find those things fulfilling and enjoyable (athelticism, technology). The reasons for why I find them enjoyable are different from each other (and different from most other people), but at the end of the day, I do enjoy them purely for myself. The fact that they can be used as a social status/tool (as a surrogate) is only a side effect I believe.