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Watch out for the OSAS - Once Saved Always Saved doctrine that teaches people that they can theoreticly kill a thousand people and commit suicide and still end up in heaven!

Watch out for martin zeinmer or whatever who says hell isnt forever as well. Steven anderson is doing bad stuff.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 07:43:40 No.10742357 Report

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>>10742351
Magic man is schizo, /thread

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 07:44:19 No.10742358 Report

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it didn't help, actually the explanation given just pushed me closer to atheism

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 07:51:50 No.10742359 Report

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:23:13 No.10742360 Report

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>>10742356
David commited adultery and murder. Noah commited sodomy. Both were still saved

You are of your father the devil.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:25:48 No.10742361 Report

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>>10742360
You are going to hell, calvincuck. Don't say no one warned you of your blasphemous heresy.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:28:48 No.10742362 Report

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>>10742351
Ahd the earth is flat.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:30:27 No.10742363 Report

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>>10742351
>>10742352
refuted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n61AlE4sYOk

>>10742353
*tips*

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:32:00 No.10742364 Report

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>>10742351
Based.

>Only the love that springs from pity, and carries its compassion to the utmost breaking of self-will, is the redeeming Christian Love, in which Faith and Hope are both included of a—Faith as the unwavering consciousness of that moral meaning of the world, confirmed by the most divine exemplar; Hope as the blessed sense of the impossibility of any cheating of this consciousness.

https://youtu.be/dzeNnoMmsjM?t=4073

>AFTER recognising the necessity of a regeneration of the human race, if we follow up the possibilities of its ennoblement we light on little else than obstacles.... We cannot withhold our acknowledgment that the human family consists of irremediably disparate races, whereof the noblest well might rule the more ignoble, yet never raise them to their level by commixture, but simply sink to theirs. Indeed this one relation might suffice to explain our fall; even its cheerlessness should not blind us to it: if it is reasonable to assume that the dissolution of our earthly globe is purely a question of time, we probably shall have to accustom ourselves to the idea of the human species dying out. On the other hand there is such a matter as life beyond all time and space, and the question whether the world has a moral meaning we here will try to answer by asking ourselves if we mean to go to ground as beasts or gods.
~Wagner

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:32:38 No.10742365 Report

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>>10742364
>"God lets the oppositional will of the ground operate in order that might be which love unifies and subordinates itself to for the glorification of the Absolute. The will of love stands about the will of the ground and this predominance, this eternal decidedness, the love for itself as the essence of being in general, this decidedness is the innermost core of absolute freedom."
>"Philosophy will not be able to effect an immediate transformation of the present condition of the world. This is not only true of philosophy, but of all merely human thought and endeavor. Only a god can save us. The sole possibility that is left for us is to prepare a sort of readiness, through thinking and poeticizing, for the appearance of the god or for the absence of the god in the time of foundering [Untergang] for in the face of the god who is absent, we founder. Only a God Can Save Us."
>"For us contemporaries the greatness of what is to be thought is too great. Perhaps we might bring ourselves to build a narrow and not far reaching footpath as a passageway."
>“There is a thinking more rigorous than the conceptual”
>“...the most extreme sharpness and depth of thought belongs to genuine and great mysticism”
~Martin Heidegger

>Wisdom is one thing: to know the will that steers all things through all.
>This world-order, the same of all, no god nor man did create, but it ever was and is and will be: everlasting fire, kindling in measures and being quenched in measures.
>The invisible structure is greater than the visible.
~Heraclitus

>"And for these reasons, and out of such elements which are in number four, the body of the world was created, and it was harmonised by proportion, and therefore has the spirit of friendship; and having been reconciled to itself, it was indissoluble by the hand of any other than the framer."
~Plato

>“The Tao is beyond is and is not. How do I know this? I look inside myself and see.”
~Lao Tzu

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:32:55 No.10742366 Report

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I hope everyone ITT knows the trinity was originally fleshed out in early neoplatonism and that christcucks just stole it from neoplatonists like the niggers they are

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:33:12 No.10742367 Report

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>>10742365
>Wherefore also we must acknowledge that there is one kind of being which is always the same, uncreated and indestructible, never receiving anything into itself from without, nor itself going out to any other, but invisible and imperceptible by any sense, and of which the contemplation is granted to intelligence only.
>"Let me tell you then why the creator made this world of generation. He was good, and the good can never have any jealousy of anything. And being free from jealousy, he desired that all things should be as like himself as they could be. This is in the truest sense the origin of creation and of the world, as we shall do well in believing on the testimony of wise men: God desired that all things should be good and nothing bad, so far as this was attainable. Wherefore also finding the whole visible sphere not at rest, but moving in an irregular and disorderly fashion, out of disorder he brought order, considering that this was in every way better than the other. Now the deeds of the best could never be or have been other than the fairest; and the creator, reflecting on the things which are by nature visible, found that no unintelligent creature taken as a whole was fairer than the intelligent taken as a whole; and that intelligence could not be present in anything which was devoid of soul. For which reason, when he was framing the universe, he put intelligence in soul, and soul in body, that he might be the creator of a work which was by nature fairest and best. Wherefore, using the language of probability, we may say that the world became a living creature truly endowed with soul and intelligence by the providence of God."
~Plato

Plato obviously makes a divergence from these previous thinkers in his abstraction, an ignorance for suffering, and in his focus on the rational intellect, but nevertheless I still believe he is fundamentally looking into the same very same state or nature of being.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:33:33 No.10742368 Report

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>>10742361
>Gets mad because educated people don't believe his fiction
>lashes out and says when they die according to his fiction from barbaric sheep herders they will be tortured forever.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:33:47 No.10742369 Report

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>>10742367
>We have nothing here to do with the astoundingly varied attempts of speculative human reason to explain the nature of this Son of the God, who walked on earth and suffered shame: where the greater miracle had been revealed in train of that manifestation, the reversal of the will-to-live which all believers experienced in themselves, it already embraced that other marvel, the divinity of the herald of salvation. The very shape of the Divine had presented itself in anthropomorphic guise; it was the body of the quintessence of all pitying Love, stretched out upon the cross of pain and suffering. A—symbol?—beckoning to the highest pity, to worship of suffering, to imitation of this breaking of all self-seeking Will: nay, a picture, a very effigy! In this, and its effect upon the human heart, lies all the spell whereby the Church soon made the Græco-Roman world her own.... the suffering god upon the cross, "the Head with wounds all bleeding," still fills us with ecstatic throes, in the rudest reproduction.
>But that picture of Raphael's shews us the final consummation of the miracle, the virgin mother transfigured and ascending with the new-born son: here we are taken by a beauty which the ancient world, for all its gifts, could not so much as dream of; for here is not the ice of chastity that made an Artemis seem unapproachable, but Love divine beyond all knowledge of unchastity, Love which of innermost denial of the world has born the affirmation of redemption. And this unspeakable wonder we see with our eyes, distinct and tangible, in sweetest concord with the noblest truths of our own inner being, yet lifted high above conceivable experience. If the Greek statue held to Nature her unattained ideal, the painter now unveiled the unseizable and therefore indefinable mystery of the religious dogmas, no longer to the plodding reason, but to enraptured sight.
~Wagner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRmCEGHt-Qk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6OQCncAiC8

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:34:46 No.10742370 Report

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>>10742369
>For if we will think of it, no Time need have gone to ruin, could it have found a man great enough, a man wise and good enough: wisdom to discern truly what the Time wanted, valor to lead it on the right road thither; these are the salvation of any Time. But I liken common languid Times, with their unbelief, distress, perplexity, with their languid doubting characters and embarrassed circumstances, impotently crumbling down into ever worse distress towards final ruin;—all this I liken to dry dead fuel, waiting for the lightning out of Heaven that shall kindle it. The great man, with his free force direct out of God's own hand, is the lightning. His word is the wise healing word which all can believe in. All blazes round him now, when he has once struck on it, into fire like his own. The dry mouldering sticks are thought to have called him forth. They did want him greatly; but as to calling him forth—! Those are critics of small vision, I think, who cry: "See, is it not the sticks that made the fire?" No sadder proof can be given by a man of his own littleness than disbelief in great men. There is no sadder symptom of a generation than such general blindness to the spiritual lightning, with faith only in the heap of barren dead fuel. It is the last consummation of unbelief. In all epochs of the world's history, we shall find the Great Man to have been the indispensable savior of his epoch;—the lightning, without which the fuel never would have burnt. The History of the World, I said already, was the Biography of Great Men.
~Carlyle

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:36:35 No.10742371 Report

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This might be one of the worst threads I've ever seen. Why don't you stop pasting shit and use your own brains.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:38:22 No.10742372 Report

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>>10742370
>Mahomet was in his fortieth year, when having withdrawn to a cavern in Mount Hara, near Mecca, during this Ramadhan, to pass the month in prayer, and meditation on those great questions, he one day told his wife Kadijah, who with his household was with him or near him this year, That by the unspeakable special favor of Heaven he had now found it all out; was in doubt and darkness no longer, but saw it all. That all these Idols and Formulas were nothing, miserable bits of wood; that there was One God in and over all; and we must leave all Idols, and look to Him. That God is great; and that there is nothing else great! He is the Reality. Wooden Idols are not real; He is real. He made us at first, sustains us yet; we and all things are but the shadow of Him; a transitory garment veiling the Eternal Splendor. "Allah akbar, God is great;"—and then also "Islam," That we must submit to God. That our whole strength lies in resigned submission to Him, whatsoever He do to us. For this world, and for the other! The thing He sends to us, were it death and worse than death, shall be good, shall be best; we resign ourselves to God.—"If this be Islam," says Goethe, "do we not all live in Islam?" Yes, all of us that have any moral life; we all live so. It has ever been held the highest wisdom for a man not merely to submit to Necessity,—Necessity will make him submit,—but to know and believe well that the stern thing which Necessity had ordered was the wisest, the best, the thing wanted there. To cease his frantic pretension of scanning this great God's-World in his small fraction of a brain; to know that it had verily, though deep beyond his soundings, a Just Law, that the soul of it was Good;—that his part in it was to conform to the Law of the Whole, and in devout silence follow that; not questioning it, obeying it as unquestionable.
~Carlyle

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:39:29 No.10742373 Report

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>>10742351
my dick my balls and your mouth

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:40:24 No.10742374 Report

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>>10742372
>I say, this is yet the only true morality known. A man is right and invincible, virtuous and on the road towards sure conquest, precisely while he joins himself to the great deep Law of the World, in spite of all superficial laws, temporary appearances, profit-and-loss calculations; he is victorious while he co-operates with that great central Law, not victorious otherwise:—and surely his first chance of co-operating with it, or getting into the course of it, is to know with his whole soul that it is; that it is good, and alone good! This is the soul of Islam; it is properly the soul of Christianity;—for Islam is definable as a confused form of Christianity; had Christianity not been, neither had it been. Christianity also commands us, before all, to be resigned to God. We are to take no counsel with flesh and blood; give ear to no vain cavils, vain sorrows and wishes: to know that we know nothing; that the worst and cruelest to our eyes is not what it seems; that we have to receive whatsoever befalls us as sent from God above, and say, It is good and wise, God is great! "Though He slay me, yet will I trust in Him." Islam means in its way Denial of Self, Annihilation of Self. This is yet the highest Wisdom that Heaven has revealed to our Earth.
>Such light had come, as it could, to illuminate the darkness of this wild Arab soul. A confused dazzling splendor as of life and Heaven, in the great darkness which threatened to be death: he called it revelation and the angel Gabriel;—who of us yet can know what to call it? It is the "inspiration of the Almighty" that giveth us understanding. To know; to get into the truth of anything, is ever a mystic act,—of which the best Logics can but babble on the surface. "Is not Belief the true god-announcing Miracle?" says Novalis.—That Mahomet's whole soul, set in flame with this grand Truth vouchsafed him, should feel as if it were important and the only important thing, was very natural.
~Carlyle

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:41:31 No.10742375 Report

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>>10742374
>The highest Voice ever heard on this earth said withal, "Consider the lilies of the field; they toil not, neither do they spin: yet Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these." A glance, that, into the deepest deep of Beauty. "The lilies of the field,"—dressed finer than earthly princes, springing up there in the humble furrow-field; a beautiful eye looking out on you, from the great inner Sea of Beauty! How could the rude Earth make these, if her Essence, rugged as she looks and is, were not inwardly Beauty? In this point of view, too, a saying of Goethe's, which has staggered several, may have meaning: "The Beautiful," he intimates, "is higher than the Good; the Beautiful includes in it the Good." The true Beautiful; which however, I have said somewhere, "differs from the false as Heaven does from Vauxhall!" So much for the distinction and identity of Poet and Prophet.—
>Nevertheless, you will say, there must be a difference between true Poetry and true Speech not poetical: what is the difference? On this point many things have been written, especially by late German Critics, some of which are not very intelligible at first. They say, for example, that the Poet has an infinitude in him; communicates an Unendlichkeit, a certain character of "infinitude," to whatsoever he delineates. This, though not very precise, yet on so vague a matter is worth remembering: if well meditated, some meaning will gradually be found in it. For my own part, I find considerable meaning in the old vulgar distinction of Poetry being metrical, having music in it, being a Song.
~Carlyle

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:42:25 No.10742376 Report

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>>10742375
>...Truly, if pressed to give a definition, one might say this as soon as anything else: If your delineation be authentically musical, musical not in word only, but in heart and substance, in all the thoughts and utterances of it, in the whole conception of it, then it will be poetical; if not, not.—Musical: how much lies in that! A musical thought is one spoken by a mind that has penetrated into the inmost heart of the thing; detected the inmost mystery of it, namely the melody that lies hidden in it; the inward harmony of coherence which is its soul, whereby it exists, and has a right to be, here in this world. All inmost things, we may say, are melodious; naturally utter themselves in Song. The meaning of Song goes deep. Who is there that, in logical words, can express the effect music has on us? A kind of inarticulate unfathomable speech, which leads us to the edge of the Infinite, and lets us for moments gaze into that!
~Carlyle

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:43:32 No.10742377 Report

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>>10742376
>Nay all speech, even the commonest speech, has something of song in it: not a parish in the world but has its parish-accent;—the rhythm or tune to which the people there sing what they have to say! Accent is a kind of chanting; all men have accent of their own,—though they only notice that of others. Observe too how all passionate language does of itself become musical,—with a finer music than the mere accent; the speech of a man even in zealous anger becomes a chant, a song. All deep things are Song. It seems somehow the very central essence of us, Song; as if all the rest were but wrappages and hulls! The primal element of us; of us, and of all things. The Greeks fabled of Sphere-Harmonies: it was the feeling they had of the inner structure of Nature; that the soul of all her voices and utterances was perfect music. Poetry, therefore, we will call musical Thought. The Poet is he who thinks in that manner. At bottom, it turns still on power of intellect; it is a man's sincerity and depth of vision that makes him a Poet. See deep enough, and you see musically; the heart of Nature being everywhere music, if you can only reach it.

It is the great sense of the meaning of things; very much of the better part of Romanticism.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:44:05 No.10742378 Report

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>>10742377
>I do not agree with much modern criticism, in greatly preferring the Inferno to the two other parts of the Divine Commedia. Such preference belongs, I imagine, to our general Byronism of taste, and is like to be a transient feeling. The Purgatorio and Paradiso, especially the former, one would almost say, is even more excellent than it. It is a noble thing that Purgatorio, "Mountain of Purification;" an emblem of the noblest conception of that age. If sin is so fatal, and Hell is and must be so rigorous, awful, yet in Repentance too is man purified; Repentance is the grand Christian act. It is beautiful how Dante works it out. The tremolar dell' onde, that "trembling" of the ocean-waves, under the first pure gleam of morning, dawning afar on the wandering Two, is as the type of an altered mood. Hope has now dawned; never-dying Hope, if in company still with heavy sorrow. The obscure sojourn of demons and reprobate is underfoot; a soft breathing of penitence mounts higher and higher, to the Throne of Mercy itself. "Pray for me," the denizens of that Mount of Pain all say to him. "Tell my Giovanna to pray for me," my daughter Giovanna; "I think her mother loves me no more!" They toil painfully up by that winding steep, "bent down like corbels of a building," some of them,—crushed together so "for the sin of pride;" yet nevertheless in years, in ages and aeons, they shall have reached the top, which is heaven's gate, and by Mercy shall have been admitted in. The joy too of all, when one has prevailed; the whole Mountain shakes with joy, and a psalm of praise rises, when one soul has perfected repentance and got its sin and misery left behind! I call all this a noble embodiment of a true noble thought.
~Carlyle

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:44:39 No.10742379 Report

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>>10742351

belongs on /religion

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:45:58 No.10742380 Report

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>>10742365
>>10742367
>>10742369
>>10742370
>>10742372
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>>10742376
>>10742377
>>10742378
"Repentance is the grand Christian act."

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:46:33 No.10742381 Report

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same shit different air freshener

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:49:09 No.10742382 Report

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>>10742379
I unironically wish a religion board would be added.

It should be /rp/ for religion and philosophy.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:51:52 No.10742383 Report

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>>10742382
religion has a board /x/ its for morons who believe in fantasies aka a containment board.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:53:43 No.10742384 Report

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>>10742351
>>10742369

This is a very inspiring thread. Thank you anons.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:54:07 No.10742385 Report

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>>10742383
No earnestness in this soul--; No Falstaff!

Or perhaps maybe he is a fool to think he knows better than the great men.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:57:09 No.10742386 Report

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>>10742384
Welcome anon, be joyful that we have each other!

https://youtu.be/Xc6-KozGK3c?t=634

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:58:24 No.10742387 Report

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>>10742351
>God is a being
The reason why religions are structured the way they are is because most people a retarded faggots that need to feel like they are being looked over by a master that is taking care of them. This majority of people will always have child-like minds and push their beliefs onto society because: 1) Dunnining-Kruger 2) they are retards 3) they are faggots
Go read the bible, the holy trinity is clearly explained. If you don't understand it then you are a retarded faggot. Any questions?

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:58:26 No.10742388 Report

Quoted By: >>10742424 >>10742426

Orthodox Christian here, I wish to debate about Catholic and protestant heresies and explain why they make no sense.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 08:59:31 No.10742389 Report

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>>10742387
Retarded faggot isn't a way to refer to people seeking truth.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:02:15 No.10742390 Report

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>>10742389
I'm just doing God's work.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:02:36 No.10742391 Report

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>>10742387
You seem to forget that the testament to the great value of Christianity is found in the extending of its own innermost truth to the "poor in soul", like similarly to Buddhism.

>It was otherwise with the Christian religion. Its founder was not wise, but divine (1); his teaching was the deed of free-willed suffering. To believe in him, meant to emulate him; to hope for redemption, to strive for union with him. To the "poor in spirit" no metaphysical explanation of the [215] world was necessary; the knowledge of its suffering lay open to their feeling; and not to shut the doors of that, was the sole divine injunction to believers.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:03:10 No.10742392 Report

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>>10742378
Purgatory doesn't exist within holy scripture, it takes a broad concept within Christianity that everyone will have to somehow repay for their sins and transgressions through life and instead of accepting that we do not know some divine mysteries yet invents a whole new dimension to Cosmology.
We do not know that Purgatory exist, we do not know by what mechanism this purification must happen and how this purification even manifests. This is the arrogance with Catholics in general, it is like some odd kind of Aristotelian autism where everything has to exist like a fantasy setting with everything explained and every mechanic understood.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:03:58 No.10742393 Report

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>>10742390
Do you genuinely and unironically think that Gods work is shitposting on an anonymous forum?

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:04:40 No.10742394 Report

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>>10742386
>believes a god
>worships it
>thinks some other npc who worships a similar splinter of his fantasy is his brother

-history lesson to the npc, you would have killed each other as heretics.

Unfortunately religious stupidity spreads like cancer even if you kill the person the dumb impressionable will always follow the dumb lie.

Solution, teach the dumb how to process information to reach logical conclusions and base reality on the facts.

Current status: not successful.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:05:56 No.10742395 Report

Quoted By: >>10742401

>>10742358
Atheism will do you no good. You should take the Islam pill about the indivisible oneness of God instead of atheistic godlessness.

>The Qur'an asserts the existence of a single and absolute truth that transcends the world; a unique, independent and indivisible being, who is independent of the entire creation.[12] God, according to Islam, is a universal God, rather than a local, tribal, or parochial one—God is an absolute, who integrates all affirmative values and brooks no evil.[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawhid

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:05:56 No.10742396 Report

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>>10742392
You'r like a bugman how you talk. Could anything be beautiful if it did not have some truth it it, much less so poetry?

Think a bit, be earnest, be happy.

https://youtu.be/Xc6-KozGK3c?t=634

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:06:29 No.10742397 Report

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>>10742366
The early church fathers were students of neoplatonism.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:10:56 No.10742398 Report

Quoted By: >>10742406

>>10742396
Friend, we aren't talking about poetry but dogma.
>did not have some truth to it
Yes, some truth that everyone must repay for their deeds in some way. The Catholic need to create mechanisms and dimensions that are not mentioned in any holy scriptures to explain how this is done is a more "bugman" mechanism if you ask me.
Also you have to understand that issues of Dogma aren't a side thing for Christianity, understanding nature of Christ and the salvation that he proposes is crucial to save yourself from heresy, otherwise you start believing in nonsense like Original Sin.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:12:10 No.10742399 Report

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>>10742393
Yes.
>>10742391
Wrong. The power of Christianity, it's revolution in spiritual technology, is forgiveness. Understanding what original sin is and how we can use the holy spirit(creative power), to unite us(the son) with all things(the father/the word). All we have to do is genuinely ask for forgiveness and that will arouse the holy spirit within us and correct our sinful nature.
Getting caught up in scholarly discussion about things you cannot be aware of until you have reached you final salvation is faggotry.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:12:32 No.10742400 Report

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>>10742366
And? Neoplatonic philosophy is also very useful for any kind of conceptual thought and much of modern philosophy is in some way derived from either Platonic or Aristotelian roots. The fact that Platonism helped people understand that concepts present within Bible doesn't mean that Platonism invented these concepts, these ideas exist independent of how you name them.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:12:35 No.10742401 Report

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>>10742395
Athiests have higher statistically higher IQ
Athiests are under represented in the prison system aka they do less crimes
Athiests do humanity work because we are all virtually the same albeit ideas.

Believing in your religion/fiction just leads you to failure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:12:42 No.10742402 Report

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>>10742394
Ahh what a perverse sheep you are, how audacious to would you be before a Bach who exclaimed his belief in God? Or a Goethe? Or a Charles Martel? Of course these are just fools in your eyes. Because you are a fool. And this is a good recourse.

Nothing but strawmen you have, and insecure depression of a bitterness of the soul and heart.

Your life isn't worth living if you're so corrupt of mind, but I offer you forgiveness.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:13:51 No.10742403 Report

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>>10742351

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:14:47 No.10742404 Report

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>>10742399
Original Sin does not exist.
>The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
This is core to Christianity, Original Sin is was a heresy later introduced into dogma that thankfully Orthodox Christians didn't adopt.
The whole cosmology is fallen, you are not trying to redeem your original sin, baptism is the first step to deification through the body of Christ, Theosis is Christianity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:15:47 No.10742405 Report

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>>10742404
I see you're still being faggot. Get off my board you kike shill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:19:55 No.10742406 Report

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>>10742398
You should also be weary that you do not fall into an artificiality of dogma by your unthinking strictness to it, where the greater sin would be revealed to be a corruption and reduction of the revelation of the holy ghost, and not a lack of exactness to such dogma. There is of course danger in both ends, but you see only one. To think the Holy Ghost is not understood in, and understanding of the complexities of our minds is the true sacrilege. And someone like Heidegger shows such largeness of complexity, of what truth even is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:21:50 No.10742407 Report

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>>10742401
So should I worship Atheists instead of God because they are all that and then some?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:22:21 No.10742408 Report

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>>10742405
Explain please how am I a kike? Do you understand the history of how the doctrine of Original Sin appeared? If you would actually read Augustine and the Church fathers you would understand that the current belief held by Catholic church and its children is "Traducianist" at its core.
The fall of man caused the fall of the universe, but you are not inheriting the sin of Adam, as a literal sin on your sin list as Catholics envision it.
We can debate about this if you have arguments in favor of why you think that Original Sin is a proper dogma.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:23:32 No.10742409 Report

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>>10742399
>Wrong.
You proceeding said nothing more than I said, and that is a result of your misunderstanding that the eternal love and compassion of Christ, for redemption, to the "poor in spirit" as in the rich, is the same as that eternal forgiveness, for you could not have such forgiveness without compassion.

And furthermore your lack of understanding of this is shown in your use of the phrase "spiritual technology", which is a needless use and only points to the quantitative and functional nature of technology.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:25:57 No.10742410 Report

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>>10742401
So are academic marxists retard, it's because a more intelligent and rational and pleasure-deferring individual can also defer his instincts, the extreme propaganda works better on a swede than a nigger, they do not have this first-thought of all traditions. While of course rationality in itself does not mean one will be no less illusioned. And these relatively intelligent people, that has nothing to do with creativity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:26:59 No.10742411 Report

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>>10742405
Not everyone is a kike you fucking retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:27:19 No.10742412 Report

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>>10742406
That is because Orthodox view of God and Catholic view of God is very different friend. I do not believe that anyone has ever understood the essence of God, but we constantly encounter the energies of God. Essentially the key difference is that Catholicism views God and his influence/energies as monolithic thing, the concept also known as Divine simplicity which leads into other doctrines like created grace which imho caused Atheism but that is besides the point. Orthodoxy believes that there is the divine Essence of God that is so infinite and perfect that our imperfect world can not fit it even in part because it is the core perfect essence of Love incarnate which is our almighty God, on the other hand we encounter energies of God that proceed from him as his actions or influence but they are not equivalent to his essence, similar to how Suns thermonuclear core and its rays are not the same. Because of that Orthodoxy believes that no mortal human has ever experienced or ever was capable of experiencing Holy spirit or any parts of the trinity in its essence, only through its energy.

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based Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:28:06 No.10742413 Report

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>>10742407
you shouldn't worship anyone, superman, kings etc humanity makes mistakes but we are truly doomed if we endlessly repeat them. Good Logic leads to fact and fact leads to good decision making for all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:30:39 No.10742414 Report

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>>10742408
Original sin is sin of origin. You are born into it. It is the desire to procreate, compete for resources, base gratification. Redirecting your creative energy away from procreation to creation through the act of forgiveness brings union with God. You're a kike because you are engaging in pilpul over your retarded fundamentalist interpretation of a text that has (mis-)translated many times over across thousand of years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:31:33 No.10742415 Report

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>>10742412
Then where is the disagreement? There is even less of a problem after your relinquishment of the influence of the Holy Ghost, though I still believe in it in such a Catholic way. It could easily be said Holy Ghost is interchangeable Religious Truth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:32:33 No.10742416 Report

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>>10742413
>Good Logic leads to fact and fact leads to good decision making for all.
Lmao this retard is still in the 17th century.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:34:57 No.10742417 Report

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>>10742353
>>10742360
>gods not real
>believing anybody other than Jesus Christ as being perfect
I'll pray for you tonight, aussiefren, especially for your soul.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:35:43 No.10742418 Report

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:36:27 No.10742419 Report

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>>10742368
I have to wonder why Nick Fuentes is there.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:37:39 No.10742420 Report

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>>10742413
>you shouldn't worship anyone, superman, kings etc humanity makes mistakes but we are truly doomed if we endlessly repeat them. Good Logic leads to fact and fact leads to good decision making for all.
Your own post is lacking the "Good Logic" that you profess. What will inspire people to make "good decisions" if not for the faith in God?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:37:42 No.10742421 Report

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>>10742418
See>>10742364 >>10742365
>>10742370

Race and nature are not antithetical to God, but rather necessary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:38:50 No.10742422 Report

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>>10742414
Lol what? What you are saying is, essentially, that anyone who tries to clarify the dogma and follow Christ in an uncorrupted way is a kike.
This is exactly why we get shit like clown masses in Catholic church, because you think that Dogma is relative
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgKweu0ZWVs

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:47:31 No.10742423 Report

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It's good to be right.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:49:15 No.10742424 Report

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>>10742388

head over to vaticancatholic.com and view their material on the subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpBWkxJNL3s

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:49:19 No.10742425 Report

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>>10742422
That is exactly what I'm saying. Jesus Christ did not teach dogma to his disciples. All he did was show them the power of forgiveness as a path to to God. Faggot jews like you try to remake the divine simplicity of his message into your own ego project of intellectualism and social power. I know your kind. You're a faggot and retard.

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 09:54:12 No.10742426 Report

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>>10742388
based

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Anonymous Tue 14 Jul 2020 10:03:04 No.10742427 Report

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>>10742424
I have been to the website of course, I wish to talk to people here.

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Anonymous ID:SDtBpuTt Tue 14 Jul 2020 10:38:04 No.10742694 Report

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>>10742427
I am a christian. Debate me.

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