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attention all computer users

Anonymous ID:ouQRoP2c Mon 01 Feb 2021 17:39:29 No.12054457 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12054465 >>12054480 >>12054560 >>12055202 >>12055209 >>12055382 >>12055939 >>12055945 >>12056119 >>12056312 >>12057651 >>12061170 >>12061396 >>12061547

You have 10 options
install Dragora GNU/Linux-Libre
install Dyne:bolic, GNU/Linux-libre
install gNewSense, GNU/Linux-libre
install guix GNU/Linux-libre
install Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre
install Parabola GNU/Linux-libre
install PureOS GNU/Linux-libre
install Trisquel GNU/Linux-libre
install Ututo S GNU/Linux-libre
suffer enslavement at the hands of your computer

Aryanmaster !!KoYExmAhQ6f

Aryanmaster !!KoYExmAhQ6f ID:wbrIqkGA Mon 01 Feb 2021 17:40:53 No.12054465 Report

Quoted By: >>12054469 >>12055202 >>12061161 >>12062103

>>12054457
Im not poor and I dont have gender dysphoria so no

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ORcd53Xw Mon 01 Feb 2021 17:40:55 No.12054466 Report

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suffering is good

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ouQRoP2c Mon 01 Feb 2021 17:41:18 No.12054469 Report

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>>12054465
ponynigger

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:B6bBfhLp Mon 01 Feb 2021 17:41:41 No.12054471 Report

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i use arch btw

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ZG/sJz3W Mon 01 Feb 2021 17:46:03 No.12054480 Report

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>>12054457
bsaed

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:M4zzxiST Mon 01 Feb 2021 18:30:37 No.12054557 Report

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I will install Linux some day.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:mSVg8i+w Mon 01 Feb 2021 18:32:19 No.12054560 Report

Quoted By: >>12054828

>>12054457
do u use a virtual machine

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:PDlryvBF Mon 01 Feb 2021 18:41:34 No.12054586 Report

Quoted By: >>12055202

B-but windows is better for my gayming!

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:FZolNVJR Mon 01 Feb 2021 18:45:42 No.12054599 Report

Quoted By: >>12055202

too lazy to do so

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:i1h6lxR1 Mon 01 Feb 2021 18:49:16 No.12054609 Report

Quoted By: >>12054828 >>12055202 >>12055939

I have Trisquel on my memepad but then I still use stuff like Visual Studio™ so it's kind of pointless in the end
What's a good, free IDE to replace it with

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ouQRoP2c Mon 01 Feb 2021 19:03:32 No.12054828 Report

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>>12054609
I don't use IDEs I just use the bash terminal with vim and gcc to write my programs

When I was a kid I used to use monodevelop and that is a free IDE that was pretty good .
Here's a huge list of IDEs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_integrated_development_environments

>>12054560
no

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:SGJFZu7n Mon 01 Feb 2021 19:08:56 No.12054843 Report

Quoted By: >>12055202

Any /g/fags ITT? Well, I've just installed ubuntu and I keep getting this message. How to fix?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:KkpGrT1T Mon 01 Feb 2021 21:25:35 No.12055202 Report

Quoted By: >>12055560

>>12054457
number 6 pls also thanks for keyed post
>>12054465
>>12054586
>>12054599
cringe
>>12054843
hello joel go fuck off with your unfunny meme
>>12054609
well i use emacs

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fSAr5dYO Mon 01 Feb 2021 21:28:40 No.12055209 Report

Quoted By: >>12055211

>>12054457
I heard manjaro good for beginner... recommend?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:KkpGrT1T Mon 01 Feb 2021 21:30:02 No.12055211 Report

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>>12055209
its not a libre distribution

maybe use trisquel GNU/Linux-libre

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:skGk7jz/ Mon 01 Feb 2021 22:26:02 No.12055382 Report

Quoted By: >>12055399 >>12055411 >>12055935

>>12054457
You could start with Mint Linux, which has the best chance of working with everything you have, and then once you get used to it, you can branch out to other variations.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:B6bBfhLp Mon 01 Feb 2021 22:30:32 No.12055399 Report

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>>12055382
>b-but it's not muh free software!!11

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:KkpGrT1T Mon 01 Feb 2021 22:32:41 No.12055411 Report

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>>12055382
its called Mint GNU/Linux and this is only gonna be used as a temporary distribution
after getting used to it and stop using non-free programs, then you can upgrade to 100% free as in freedom GNU/Linux-libre distribution

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bk6eNyco Mon 01 Feb 2021 22:39:42 No.12055440 Report

Quoted By: >>12055449

just use mint, retard
>hurr durr muh packages
cope seethe dilate

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:KkpGrT1T Mon 01 Feb 2021 22:43:23 No.12055449 Report

Quoted By: >>12055470 >>12055498

>>12055440
mint has proprietary programs and it literally installs them regardless if you check that "proprietary" checkbox

use one of the approved distros

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bk6eNyco Mon 01 Feb 2021 22:52:09 No.12055470 Report

Quoted By: >>12055558

>>12055449
i don't see that as some form of a big issue, although im kind of frustrated due to many problems related to package use,
man...been a year already, i might switch to something else this month after i finish higurashi, parabola seems like the choice, since you told me about it i kinda fell into it

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:skGk7jz/ Mon 01 Feb 2021 23:01:54 No.12055498 Report

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>>12055449
that's why you can just start with Mint, then later, move to something else. But Mint is a good start.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:KkpGrT1T Mon 01 Feb 2021 23:18:53 No.12055558 Report

Quoted By: >>12055627

>>12055470
I installed it 3 times, you can pick between openrc (Gentoo's init system) or systemd (average gnu/linux distribution init system) as your init system but I never installed systemd

(when you want to choose openrc, remember to subscribe to the nonsystemd repo and install your-initfreedom)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:vBdx29rV Mon 01 Feb 2021 23:19:18 No.12055560 Report

Quoted By: >>12055617 >>12055935

>>12055202
I use emacs but only to type in text without looking like a 180 IQ octopus.

Also why should I care for any particular distro from OP?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:KkpGrT1T Mon 01 Feb 2021 23:33:37 No.12055617 Report

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>>12055560
because they respect your freedoms

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:bk6eNyco Mon 01 Feb 2021 23:36:31 No.12055627 Report

Quoted By: >>12055872

>>12055558
except for the upstart, gentoo wiki doesn't show that much differences between openrc and systmd

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:F1Akp0Uc Mon 01 Feb 2021 23:56:52 No.12055872 Report

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>>12055627
openrc has a different boot process
that and you have to install services scripts for shit like ALSA and eudev (if you use graphical, eudev is important)
they're all in a group called openrc-desktop in parabola repo

https://wiki()parabola()nu/Beginners%27_Guide

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ouQRoP2c Tue 02 Feb 2021 00:17:56 No.12055935 Report

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>>12055382
If you are just starting out you could do a more popular (nonfree) GNU/Linux distribution while you learn the ropes, or if your computer cannot support the free operating systems.
>>12055560
they have NO proprietary software intentionally added , and if you discover some in the code they will remove it (and you get GNU bucks signed by RMS). This means that they fully respect your freedom. If you can run one of the distros then I would recommend it, If your computer cannot support it consider getting a computer that can , https://ryf.fsf.org/ has some computers with Free operating systems Pre-installed . If you are not an advanced computer user then I would recommend trisquel or PureOS as they are made for regular computer users. .

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Anonymous ID:orFaraMw Tue 02 Feb 2021 00:21:59 No.12055939 Report

Quoted By: >>12055962

>>12054457
But I want my wifi to work
>>12054609
Vim+Vimspector+YCM

ogey !rrat/IePOg

ogey !rrat/IePOg ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 00:24:23 No.12055945 Report

Quoted By: >>12055962 >>12056053

>>12054457
I am freebsd
Is that good?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:F1Akp0Uc Tue 02 Feb 2021 00:31:26 No.12055962 Report

Quoted By: >>12055968 >>12055984

>>12055939
use HTC WiFi card or USB
>>12055945
as long as it doesn't have proprietary software, then cool for you

ogey !rrat/IePOg

ogey !rrat/IePOg ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 00:33:13 No.12055968 Report

Quoted By: >>12055973

>>12055962
I must have because nvidia gpu

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:F1Akp0Uc Tue 02 Feb 2021 00:34:35 No.12055973 Report

Quoted By: >>12055982

>>12055968
damn fuck (((Nvidia)))

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 00:37:35 No.12055982 Report

Quoted By: >>12055994 >>12056005

>>12055973
atleast it is not broadcom

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rOMNSqwh Tue 02 Feb 2021 00:37:58 No.12055983 Report

Quoted By: >>12055994 >>12056005

Thoughts on MINIX?

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:orFaraMw Tue 02 Feb 2021 00:38:22 No.12055984 Report

Quoted By: >>12055994

>>12055962
Well I don't really care my BIOS is still nonfree and I don't want to use a Core2Duo machine from 2008. You can't go full freetard with modern x86 machines.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:F1Akp0Uc Tue 02 Feb 2021 00:40:42 No.12055994 Report

Quoted By: >>12056005 >>12056009

>>12055982
I have a laptop with (((Intel))) WiFi card
I must replace it with HTC
>>12055984
well too bad I use a workstation with 16 GB ram running parabola gnu/linux-libre
>>12055983
I wish it wasn't in (((Intel))) cpus

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:/r/JECDT Tue 02 Feb 2021 00:42:37 No.12055998 Report

Quoted By: >>12056002

hurd debian

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:F1Akp0Uc Tue 02 Feb 2021 00:43:48 No.12056002 Report

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>>12055998
reddit id but Debian GNU is good and usable

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 00:44:01 No.12056005 Report

Quoted By: >>12056026

>>12055982
heck
even the windows driver is a piece of crap
if bluetooth and wifi turned on at the same time then wifi speed drops to 40kb/sec and bluetooth wont work unless you hold your device 4cm close to your laptop
if only bluetooth it works fine
if only wifi turned on then speed is fine but the driver crashes randomly, sometimes it recovers from the crash and sometimes you have to turn off wifi and turn it on again
and yes this is for windows
you can imagine how bad it is on linux lmao
this is why I am still on windows on my laptop
and I believe asus blacklist wifi cards so I cant just replace it
>>12055994
is the htc firmware that gets loaded to the wifi chip open source?
>>12055983
you already have it in your intel me chip

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:orFaraMw Tue 02 Feb 2021 00:44:55 No.12056009 Report

Quoted By: >>12056026

>>12055994
>workstation
Full specs?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 00:49:36 No.12056018 Report

Quoted By: >>12056026

I found this
https://shop.libiquity.com/product/wifri-nd2h

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:pCEKpAEG Tue 02 Feb 2021 00:51:26 No.12056025 Report

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enjoy not having any hardware work properly and your OS to be a cripple.
t. non-schizo standard linux kernel & free software user

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:F1Akp0Uc Tue 02 Feb 2021 00:51:37 No.12056026 Report

Quoted By: >>12056030 >>12056066

>>12056009
https://store.vikings.net/libre-friendly-hardware/d8ryf
>>12056005
https://github.com/qca/open-ath9k-htc-firmware
>>12056018
that's a cool wifi card

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 00:52:44 No.12056030 Report

Quoted By: >>12056047

>>12056026
i have ath10k in my other machine
can that run without blobs?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:F1Akp0Uc Tue 02 Feb 2021 00:59:39 No.12056047 Report

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>>12056030
don't know

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ouQRoP2c Tue 02 Feb 2021 01:01:16 No.12056053 Report

Quoted By: >>12056060 >>12056061

>>12055945
from what I have read free bsd always has proprietary frimware blobs (*bsd only considers non free drivers to be blobs, while the Linux Community considers proprietary firmware and sourceless microcode to be blobs too ), Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre is currently trying to deblob the OpenBSD kernel so that they can switch from Linux-libre over to a *bsd kernel .

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 01:02:52 No.12056060 Report

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>>12056053
I think my main pc could run blob free
I try parabola linux brb

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:F1Akp0Uc Tue 02 Feb 2021 01:03:02 No.12056061 Report

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>>12056053
hyperbola is doing that because they realized Linux is getting pozzed

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:orFaraMw Tue 02 Feb 2021 01:05:16 No.12056066 Report

Quoted By: >>12056067

>>12056026
>https://store.vikings.net/libre-friendly-hardware/d8ryf
>ancient hardware
>930 yurobucks
Power 9 workstations cost a bit more but they are more recent.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:F1Akp0Uc Tue 02 Feb 2021 01:06:27 No.12056067 Report

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>>12056066
blah blah blah but do they run free software

ogey !rrat/IePOg

ogey !rrat/IePOg ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 01:14:35 No.12056081 Report

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It seems parabola linux does not want to boot in uefi mode

ogey !rrat/IePOg

ogey !rrat/IePOg ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 01:17:37 No.12056087 Report

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or it is nvidia

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:B6bBfhLp Tue 02 Feb 2021 01:20:02 No.12056094 Report

Quoted By: >>12056125 >>12057785

only freetards would be so retarded to purposely cripple their own system

ogey !rrat/IePOg

ogey !rrat/IePOg ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 01:20:35 No.12056096 Report

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lol it was nvidia
Now i understand the novideo mock name

ogey !rrat/IePOg

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ogey !rrat/IePOg ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 01:31:58 No.12056113 Report

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what

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:MxZQUE39 Tue 02 Feb 2021 01:35:21 No.12056119 Report

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>>12054457
>install Linux
>suddenly feel like playing a bunch of vidya
>reinstall Windows
>only ever browse 4chan
fug

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Anonymous ID:pCEKpAEG Tue 02 Feb 2021 01:38:17 No.12056125 Report

Quoted By: >>12056197

>>12056094
exactly. pic rel is the freetards' wet dream, a system with absolutely zero blobs or proprietary software (not even a BIOS)

ogey !rrat/IePOg

ogey !rrat/IePOg ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 02:06:00 No.12056197 Report

Quoted By: >>12056234 >>12056254

>>12056125
but probably it is trade marked

ogey !rrat/IePOg

ogey !rrat/IePOg ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 02:13:30 No.12056209 Report

Quoted By: >>12056254

Parabola Linux is a gpg hell

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:pCEKpAEG Tue 02 Feb 2021 02:30:47 No.12056234 Report

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>>12056197
The trademarks & patents have expired lol

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:TcHg8tcc Tue 02 Feb 2021 02:32:35 No.12056238 Report

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linux is homosexual

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ouQRoP2c Tue 02 Feb 2021 02:45:11 No.12056254 Report

Quoted By: >>12056260

>>12056197
trademarks are fine as long as the program isn't trademarked so heavily that removing all of them is exceedingly cumbersome .
>>12056209
From the wiki it says

In most cases this can be corrected by refreshing that packager's key, or the entire the keyring. Note the email address shown in the error message (<[email protected]> in the example above). If only a smaller number of packagers are shown in the errors, copy the email addresses and run this command:

# pacman-key --refresh-keys [email protected]

or alternatively you can refresh the whole entire ring

# pacman-key --refresh-keys

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 02:49:05 No.12056260 Report

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>>12056254
yeah I have done that it updates without error
what I had to do is
sudo pacman -Scc
sudo pacman -Syy archlinux-keyring archlinux32-keyring archlinuxarm-keyring parabola-keyring
sudo pacman-key --init
sudo pacman-key --populate archlinux archlinux32 archlinuxarm parabola
sudo pacman-key --refresh-keys

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 02:57:15 No.12056274 Report

Quoted By: >>12056284 >>12057785

done
but openrc does not work as it should
hostname defaults to parabole even if I change /etc/conf.d/hostname
and cant change consolefonts

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:pCEKpAEG Tue 02 Feb 2021 03:01:18 No.12056284 Report

Quoted By: >>12056294 >>12057791

>>12056274
>/etc/conf.d/hostname
Isn't parabola just castrated arch though? Hostname is changed from
/etc/hostname

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 03:06:18 No.12056294 Report

Quoted By: >>12056306 >>12057785

>>12056284
i debugged whats the problam
there is no command "hostname" so it cannot change
and as for the consolefonts, they are not installed or they are not in /usr/share/consolefonts
but I am lazy to fix any of that I go back to my freebsd

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:pCEKpAEG Tue 02 Feb 2021 03:11:21 No.12056306 Report

Quoted By: >>12056308

>>12056294
You installed it properly and it's missing the hostname binary? Ew

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 03:12:35 No.12056308 Report

Quoted By: >>12056320

>>12056306
yeah
I used the wiki

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:cuGyh4wV Tue 02 Feb 2021 03:14:14 No.12056312 Report

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>>12054457
>suffer enslavement at the hands of your computer
i.e. any computer with internet access.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:pCEKpAEG Tue 02 Feb 2021 03:17:29 No.12056320 Report

Quoted By: >>12057644 >>12057785

>>12056308
Yeah that's pretty hideous.. I think the package 'inetutils' provides hostname, but I've never even thought about it because it should get installed as a dependency if you got that far.. Having xfce and even a web browser

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 10:41:22 No.12057644 Report

Quoted By: >>12057667 >>12057785

>>12056320
inetutils had the hostname binary
no idea why I cant change console fonts still
I found consolefonts and consoletrans /usr/share/kbd/ so I made a symlink to /usr/share/
but still nothing happens
accented characters still show up as a block in the console
maybe it is an novidea bug, because this time nouveau dont even have the blobs to run somewhat properly

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Drsjh6vl Tue 02 Feb 2021 10:43:08 No.12057645 Report

Quoted By: >>12057785

Just learn how to control your dog, son. People who can't tame Windows are weak.

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Anonymous ID:WNdoT9sV Tue 02 Feb 2021 10:47:54 No.12057651 Report

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>>12054457
Dude i have 10 years old shit laptop. Windows 7 is perfectly suitable.

ogey !rrat/IePOg

ogey !rrat/IePOg ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 11:04:20 No.12057667 Report

Quoted By: >>12057669

>>12057644
nvidia bug
it works with intel gpu

Leonard Schneizel Goldberg

Leonard Schneizel Goldberg ID:JgN+ESmW Tue 02 Feb 2021 11:12:15 No.12057669 Report

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>>12057667
Don’t live in the virtual world

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:szuUxg4r Tue 02 Feb 2021 12:14:51 No.12057785 Report

Quoted By: >>12057807 >>12057816

>>12056274
>>12056294
>>12056320
>>12057644
https://labs()parabola()nu/issues/2947
>>12056094
>noo you're not supposed to take back your freedoms you should let the Jews decide what's good for you
>>12057645
you can't tame something that you don't own

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:szuUxg4r Tue 02 Feb 2021 12:18:20 No.12057791 Report

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>>12056284
/etc/hostname is systemd
/etc/conf.d/hostname is openrc

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Anonymous ID:7NwvK7x6 Tue 02 Feb 2021 12:23:57 No.12057805 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous ID:pCEKpAEG Tue 02 Feb 2021 12:24:13 No.12057807 Report

Quoted By: >>12057834

>>12057785
For the final time
>>Taking back freedoms:
Using linux, switching to open source software, ceasing to be dependent to big commercial firms and their programs

>>Insane schizo paranoia:
I need to be able to read the source code for my wifi chip and gpu drivers even though I don't even program. Bwaah the driver for my gpu obviously has a virus in it and is leaking my screen back to the chinese authorities. My wifi driver is stealing my passwords. I don't know how software architecture and network comms work, I just read this on google.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Drsjh6vl Tue 02 Feb 2021 12:28:59 No.12057816 Report

Quoted By: >>12057836 >>12057837

>>12057785
>you can't tame something that you don't own
That's literally what taming is. Taking an independent thing and forcing your will upon it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:szuUxg4r Tue 02 Feb 2021 12:32:52 No.12057834 Report

Quoted By: >>12057888

>>12057807
>Using GNU/Linux, switching to free software, ceasing to be dependent to (((big commercial firms))) and (((their programs)))
yes that is taking back your freedoms
>I need to be able to read the source code for my wifi chip and gpu drivers even though I don't even program.
yes everyone must have access to
>Bwaah the driver for my gpu obviously has a virus in it and is leaking my screen back to the chinese authorities.
dumbass do you know how much power a kernel module/driver can have? even wacom's drivers were logging shit to google analytics
> My wifi driver is stealing my passwords
nigger how do you know it doesnt log your wifi password, SSID, requests and shit
> I don't know how software architecture and network comms work, I just read this on google.
i dont use google

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:pCEKpAEG Tue 02 Feb 2021 12:33:23 No.12057836 Report

Quoted By: >>12057854

>>12057816
Still, windows is built to have control over you and not the other way around, and you can't change that without changing most of the OS

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:szuUxg4r Tue 02 Feb 2021 12:33:44 No.12057837 Report

Quoted By: >>12057854

>>12057816
unless you have the source code, you cant do that

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Drsjh6vl Tue 02 Feb 2021 12:38:59 No.12057854 Report

Quoted By: >>12057858

>>12057836
That's true, that is the maker's intention.

>>12057837
You don't have to get to a car's engine to be able to stop it from moving.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:szuUxg4r Tue 02 Feb 2021 12:40:37 No.12057858 Report

Quoted By: >>12057864

>>12057854
then how do you intend to do this shit
if you say windows services or registry, then thats funny because it can also be in the kernel and hardcoded

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Drsjh6vl Tue 02 Feb 2021 12:44:18 No.12057864 Report

Quoted By: >>12057879

>>12057858
On a most basic level, a router that isn't dog shit can be on a whitelist basis and not a blacklist. That eliminates all control Microsoft has before you even get to the computer itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:szuUxg4r Tue 02 Feb 2021 12:47:44 No.12057879 Report

Quoted By: >>12057887

>>12057864
if it has wifi then it will just connect to a nearby hotspot to do its tracking

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Drsjh6vl Tue 02 Feb 2021 12:52:13 No.12057887 Report

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>>12057879
>if it has wifi
Why would I want that? A physical wire is more controllable and Microsoft might do a lot of things, but I've yet to see them enable something disabled in device manager.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:pCEKpAEG Tue 02 Feb 2021 12:52:15 No.12057888 Report

Quoted By: >>12057893

>>12057834
>nigger how do you know it doesnt log your wifi password, SSID, requests and shit
by not making paranoia my religion. Look, I use linux on every device I have, and have specifically (and successfully) avoided installing anything proprietary and unnecessary.

I don't get this near-pseudoscience OCD shit some of you have though. I have a wacom tablet and it's just detected as a pointing input device. Show me how in the hell the generic input driver "logs shit to google". On my system it's input-wacom providing the kernel module, which is even open source. Show me HOW THE FUCK any kernel modules for wifi/gpu sends TCP requests with data over the network or writes to disk. There isn't evidence to back it up.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:szuUxg4r Tue 02 Feb 2021 12:55:35 No.12057893 Report

Quoted By: >>12057898

>>12057888
>Show me HOW THE FUCK any kernel modules for wifi/gpu sends TCP requests with data over the network or writes to disk. There isn't evidence to back it up.
https://github.com/abysamross/simple-linux-kernel-tcp-client-server/blob/master/network_client.c

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:pCEKpAEG Tue 02 Feb 2021 12:59:30 No.12057898 Report

Quoted By: >>12057901

>>12057893
>Theoretically possible by some workaround
A machine connected to a router that logs every single request backward and forward. The "evil" gpu/wifi and the open source wacom module are allowed to run on the machine connected to said router. No other networking software is running or accesses anything. What registers on the logging?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:szuUxg4r Tue 02 Feb 2021 13:02:25 No.12057901 Report

Quoted By: >>12057907

>>12057898
unless you had blocked the linux kernel, still registered

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:pCEKpAEG Tue 02 Feb 2021 13:05:39 No.12057907 Report

Quoted By: >>12057923

>>12057901
Yeah, what registers? Where's the evidence that someone has actually done this and gotten bulletproof, undeniable proof the default drivers in arch for example ping your data to china

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:szuUxg4r Tue 02 Feb 2021 13:14:08 No.12057923 Report

Quoted By: >>12057939

>>12057907
everything can be possible in a proprietary kernel module
i'm not taking the chances

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:pCEKpAEG Tue 02 Feb 2021 13:20:17 No.12057939 Report

Quoted By: >>12057970

>>12057923
Yeah so it's just computer religion, blind faith. When there's definitive evidence that arch's default kernel modules not from any shady sources log to the network, I'll consider switching.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:szuUxg4r Tue 02 Feb 2021 13:29:03 No.12057970 Report

Quoted By: >>12057982

>>12057939
>arch's default kernel modules
>no source code
yeah will take years to discover
a WIFI kernel module can write logs to a file and then send that through a TCP connection once it has connected to a wifi access point

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:pCEKpAEG Tue 02 Feb 2021 13:35:45 No.12057982 Report

Quoted By: >>12058052

>>12057970
I don't even have a wifi card btw, and my gpu driver is the open source one for radeons. Listing the licenses of everything loaded by modinfo gives only GPL
>there's some little spec of digital dust somewhere on your kernel that's not open
and it's not worth sacrificing a working, reliable desktop for

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:szuUxg4r Tue 02 Feb 2021 13:56:12 No.12058052 Report

Quoted By: >>12058065

>>12057982
i dont care
if it means having a completely free computer, then ill take it

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:pCEKpAEG Tue 02 Feb 2021 13:59:48 No.12058065 Report

Quoted By: >>12058071

>>12058052
What about your bios? There will always be some bit of code that can't be controlled.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:szuUxg4r Tue 02 Feb 2021 14:01:53 No.12058071 Report

Quoted By: >>12058078

>>12058065
libreboot or coreboot

fuck modems because they legally have to be tivoized (the (((Jews))) did this)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:pCEKpAEG Tue 02 Feb 2021 14:04:14 No.12058078 Report

Quoted By: >>12058413

>>12058071
And how would you go about using something else than a 10 year old thinkpad?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:e8aIkYD5 Tue 02 Feb 2021 15:07:43 No.12058403 Report

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اريد انيجْ

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Anonymous ID:szuUxg4r Tue 02 Feb 2021 15:09:41 No.12058413 Report

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>>12058078
if it supports coreboot/libreboot, then ok

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Quoted By: >>12059950 >>12060297

well since /bantg/ got autosaged
I ask it here

what neat distro I should try

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ouQRoP2c Tue 02 Feb 2021 22:11:25 No.12059950 Report

Quoted By: >>12059986

>>12059646
https://www.ponyos.org/

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ogey !rrat/IePOg ID:fn34KcGy Tue 02 Feb 2021 22:23:43 No.12059986 Report

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>>12059950
jesus christ

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Anonymous ID:szuUxg4r Wed 03 Feb 2021 00:35:13 No.12060297 Report

Quoted By: >>12060525

>>12059646
>has free OSes in a hard drive
>has non-free OSes in the other
good separation
windows (as usual) tends to shit on other partitions it finds

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Anonymous ID:xfm13L3M Wed 03 Feb 2021 00:36:34 No.12060301 Report

Quoted By: >>12060316

ironically enough, im downloading setting up a bootable flash drive with xubuntu in it. goodbye wind*ws botnet

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:szuUxg4r Wed 03 Feb 2021 00:39:45 No.12060316 Report

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>>12060301
that's good, although you're not using a free (as in freedom) GNU/Linux distro, you should get used to it so that you can use a 100% free GNU/Linux-libre distribution and fully escape the botnet in the OS

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:pCEKpAEG Wed 03 Feb 2021 00:57:04 No.12060525 Report

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>>12060297
Some OCD I can agree on. I have two linux installations on two hard disks, the other is for running games, and I have an actual hardware switch to change which drive gets SATA power to keep my main one clean.

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Anonymous ID:ANg8TXqy Wed 03 Feb 2021 02:55:28 No.12061161 Report

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>>12054465
Holy fucking based!!!

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Anonymous ID:sz0cR+mK Wed 03 Feb 2021 02:58:50 No.12061170 Report

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>>12054457
i use linux mint becuz i am retar

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Anonymous ID:pCEKpAEG Wed 03 Feb 2021 06:07:46 No.12061375 Report

Quoted By: >>12061377 >>12061380

tried to actually install parabola on a t60 because bored
>won't boot at all if i don't disable cpu power management and extensions in bios
>X11 won't start with intel integrated OR radeon
>arch works fine, no troubleshooting required
pretty good

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Anonymous ID:L1ElKEUS Wed 03 Feb 2021 06:10:31 No.12061377 Report

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>>12061375

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Anonymous ID:pCEKpAEG Wed 03 Feb 2021 06:12:16 No.12061379 Report

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>>12061377
don't own anything anime-related and am 65kg

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ogey !rrat/IePOg ID:fn34KcGy Wed 03 Feb 2021 06:12:21 No.12061380 Report

Quoted By: >>12061386 >>12061887

>>12061375
yeah the cunt installer iso they gave is fucked
it does not boot with uefi with nvidia card
using bios mode works fine
booting with intel gpu in uefi works fine
install with intel gpu in uefi mode
after installation I switch back to nvidia and it boots fine

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>>12061379

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Anonymous ID:pCEKpAEG Wed 03 Feb 2021 06:17:08 No.12061386 Report

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>>12061380
i am booting bios with intel, but when trying to start X with any method it ends up at "no screens found" or with the radeon it ends up at symbol fault in driver .so

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Anonymous ID:jUnJLBLZ Wed 03 Feb 2021 06:35:37 No.12061396 Report

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>>12054457
stolen windows10 enterprise
they live in my key pile renbt free

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7hpzaXYw Wed 03 Feb 2021 07:33:32 No.12061547 Report

Quoted By: >>12061552

>>12054457
>install Dragora GNU/Linux-Libre
>install Dyne:bolic, GNU/Linux-libre
>install gNewSense, GNU/Linux-libre
>install Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre
>install Parabola GNU/Linux-libre
>install Trisquel GNU/Linux-libre
>install Ututo S GNU/Linux-libre
who
I use GNU/Linux/Fedora/systemd btw

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fn34KcGy Wed 03 Feb 2021 07:35:55 No.12061552 Report

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>>12061547
based
fedora is the most pleasent distro I ever used

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:gFoFueRX Wed 03 Feb 2021 12:09:49 No.12061887 Report

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>>12061380
>it does not boot with uefi with nvidia card
OK I'm gotta guess
I tried booting to UEFI (parabola ISO), got to the rEFInd bootloader, it couldn't boot parabola because it wasn't found or some bullshit
Then I tried booting to legacy (BIOS), it worked, installed and still works

Leonard Schneizel Goldberg

Leonard Schneizel Goldberg ID:BM0YAtcf Wed 03 Feb 2021 13:42:47 No.12062103 Report

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>>12054465
fpbp

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