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Is Masturbation Degernate?

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 08:46:20 No.1212668 View View Reply Original Report

I've seen many threads that has condemned masturbation as being degerare and also many threads that has defended it. It seems to be a 50/50 issue on /pol/ but not everything is as it seems. Why is it degerate? Why isn't it?

http://www.strawpoll.me/13304499/r

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 08:48:35 No.1212669 Report

Quoted By: >>1212672 >>1212681 >>1212682 >>1212689 >>1212718 >>1212724

>>1212668
Masturbation is natural, porn is degenerate. Going blue-balls for extended periods of time might be useful for building up sexual energy, but probably not much more than that. Porn however is disgusting, and is in no way healthy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 08:50:34 No.1212670 Report

Quoted By: >>1212687 >>1212694

only good porn for you is POV and solo/duo/+ girls

anything else promotes psychological cucking
watching another guy plow a woman tells your brain you are inferior, and he is the alpha male

watching it excessively will fuck up your libido

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 08:51:01 No.1212671 Report

Quoted By:

masturbating with an ipad is

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 08:52:23 No.1212672 Report

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>>1212669
This 100%

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 08:55:06 No.1212673 Report

Quoted By: >>1212707

>Is Masturbation Degernate?

Nigger, please.
I've been doing that shit since I was 5.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 08:55:07 No.1212674 Report

Quoted By: >>1212734

It drains your sexual energy. Idk maybe when you fuck, you receive the other's energy so you don't lose much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 08:57:31 No.1212675 Report

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>>1212668
Going blue balls clouds your judgment. I always fap before going outside.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 08:57:33 No.1212676 Report

Quoted By: >>1212677 >>1212678 >>1212687 >>1212715 >>1212733

>>1212668

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 08:57:56 No.1212677 Report

Quoted By: >>1212678 >>1212687 >>1212721 >>1212826

>>1212668
>>1212676

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 08:58:28 No.1212678 Report

Quoted By: >>1212687

>>1212668
>>1212676
>>1212677

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 08:58:46 No.1212679 Report

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Edging is degenerate. Seeking out more and more hardcore porn is also bad.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 08:59:32 No.1212680 Report

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>>1212668
Masturbating is like cucking the will to life. While in a way it has bested you into sexual activity, you win the more important aspect of not letting it trick you into creating a new generation of suffering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 08:59:36 No.1212681 Report

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>>1212669
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:02:41 No.1212682 Report

Quoted By: >>1212687 >>1212690 >>1212697

>>1212669
can you expand on this? way porn is degenerate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:03:07 No.1212683 Report

Quoted By: >>1212705 >>1212706 >>1212736

>>1212668
Masturbation is degenerate. You know what kinds of proteins your body uses to produce that sperm? It's proteins which could instead be used on your muscles, hair, bones, etc. Your body squanders it as it flushes out of your body. In addition, it makes you complacent with your shitty lifestyle. Instead of searching for gf and perfecting your flirting and small talk techniques, you are solitaire. Sex is different because you are having interactions with people, it increases your testosterone, and it leads to procreation.

I stopped fapping, and I feel so much better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:04:00 No.1212684 Report

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making better porn http://www.thebookoflife.org/on-making-better-porn/

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:04:03 No.1212685 Report

Quoted By: >>1212687 >>1212692 >>1212712

Just don't watch porn. If you really need some stimulation only look at softcore or Instagram sluts.
That said, don't wank every hour every day. 2-3 times a week max.

Godmode: once a week, every orgasm is insane

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:04:53 No.1212686 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212668
Here's the real red-pill on this issue.

Everyone saying porn is the core of the problem is right. The problem with porn is it conditions your brain to get aroused to certain imagery. It becomes an on-demand visual drug. And since it becomes a tangible thing, it can be subject to abuse, and further harmful "drug-abuse" habits (more degenerate porn, etc.)

When you masturbate to your imagination (as long as you're not recalling porn you've seen previously, but actually CREATE your own original imagery) then you detach the abuse potential from a fixed external source. By doing this, you are relying on your body's natural arousal mechanisms, mainly, undertaking sexual intercourse with another human being. But since society is fucked up and families practically don't exist anymore, feminism is at its' peak, this is probably the least harmful alternative to actually getting out and fucking someone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:05:12 No.1212687 Report

Quoted By: >>1212695

>>1212676
>>1212677
>>1212678
Excess is almost always bad, I wasn't saying masturbating that much is normal. Interesting info though, will have to read more into it.

>>1212682
pretty much this >>1212670

>>1212685
Hit the nail on the head

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:06:27 No.1212688 Report

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>>1212668
>It seemed to me quite natural that Adolf should turn with disgust and repugnance from these and other sexual aberrations of the big city, that he refrained from masturbation which was commonly indulged in by youths, and that in all matters of sex he obeyed those strict rules that he laid down for himself and for the future state. But then why did he not try to escape from his loneliness, to make friends and find stimulus in serious

By Hitler's close friend August Kuzibek in the book The Hitler I Knew pg. 120

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:08:07 No.1212689 Report

Quoted By: >>1212695

>>1212669
You forgot too much masturbation is bad for you too
My dick desensitised by all the jacking off I did but I did the nofap program and everything went back to normal

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:08:16 No.1212690 Report

Quoted By: >>1212697

>>1212682
>can you expand on this? way porn is degenerate?
https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/book/export/html/148

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:08:20 No.1212691 Report

Quoted By:

Masturbating is like being rewarded for showing up. It's a terrible form of procrastination.
I masturbate and I'm aware of this awful truth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:08:39 No.1212692 Report

Quoted By: >>1212708 >>1212714

>>1212685
What about prostate health? I hear you need to jack off like 4 times a week to minimize health consequences

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:09:36 No.1212693 Report

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>>1212668
Your Mileage May Vary, but I have a high sex drive, been that way since I was a kid; if I don't jerk off at all in a day, I am distracted by sexual thoughts and staring at the cameltoe and cleavage of any broad that isn't a hamplanet. Not very productive.

If I fap upwards of 5 times in a day, I'm not very productive, low energy, etc, because I flooded my reward system with too much dopamine just to satiate the sex drive.

For me, the balance is once when I wake up, because I have raging morning wood every day without fail, and once when I'm relaxed at night and every responsibility is taken care of, and I'm trying to get my insomniac ass to bed.

Like I said, Your Mileage May Vary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:10:23 No.1212694 Report

Quoted By: >>1212702

>>1212670

How is POV better? All it is is some pornstar looking the camera (you) in the eye, which your brain doesn't reject. It's just another trick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:11:08 No.1212695 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212689
Admitted my mistake by omission here >>1212687

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:11:57 No.1212696 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212668
Nah, I've always cleaned out the ol' pipes on a regular basis. Even in relationships where I have sex at least once a day. I've got a high libido.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:12:58 No.1212697 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212690
>>1212682
https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/relationship-between-sexual-satiety-and-brain-androgen-receptors-2007

this one is particularly interesting

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:13:11 No.1212698 Report

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Better option: be a man with a harem like god intended

>pre-history until about 70 years ago
>a man could have his concubines, neophytes, mistresses, goomah, secretary, whatever you want to call it
>wives had a pool boy or two on the side too
>society turns a polite eye away from a guy that needs to put his dick in things
>suddenly a generation raised by the electric Jew and then one by single mothers
>testosterone levels plummet, all brave and strong bloodlines ended by two world wars
>now a man has to masturbate to up close polaroids of his wife's hairy ham flaps or else he's a dirty rotten CHEAAAAAATERRRRRR REEEEEEEEEE HES CHEATING

consider this: cheating at what game? What do you get closer to winning when you cheat?

Be fucking rational people. Put your dick where you please but do so with tact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:14:10 No.1212699 Report

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Its healthy if you dont abuse it.Masturbating daily is not healthy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:15:03 No.1212700 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212668
I think masturbation can be healthy in reasonably amounts. Watching porn however, especially anything other than solo acts, is an act of cuckery, and therefore degenerate. (I count myself among the sinners)

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:16:02 No.1212701 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212668
Its more than a week i dont fap, and its awesome.
Faping everyday is degenerate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:16:55 No.1212702 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212694
this is true because of the effect of porn on sexual exhaustion but it shouldnt be too much of a problem as long as you are not masturbating excessivly.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:17:32 No.1212703 Report

Quoted By: >>1212704

Not when you masturbate to little girls...
More innocent American should go to jail for downloading CP desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:18:47 No.1212704 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212703
>innocent
>downloading CP
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:18:58 No.1212705 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212683
>muh gf
No thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:21:16 No.1212706 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212683
t. commie is right

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:21:54 No.1212707 Report

Quoted By: >>1212709 >>1212713

>>1212673
>>Masturbation ?
>I've been doing that since I was 5.

wat?
Is there something in the water over there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:23:11 No.1212708 Report

Quoted By: >>1212737

>>1212692
>What about prostate health? I hear you need to jack off like 4 times a week to minimize health consequences

No, nigger.
You just need to drain the pipes a minimum of 4 times a week.
Your hand, your sister, a goat, your wife, doesn't matter. Just don't let that jizz sit there rotting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:23:17 No.1212709 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212707
You need to convert from kilo's so it's 5x2.5= 12.5 yo which seems reasonable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:23:20 No.1212710 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212668
>masturbation
>degenerate
>pretty much all animals who can do it do it
>people everywhere have always done it
yes goy, it's degenerate, don't masturbate

t. prostate surgeon

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:23:21 No.1212711 Report

Quoted By:

everything in moderation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:23:58 No.1212712 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212685
take the solo camgirl pill

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:26:09 No.1212713 Report

Quoted By: >>1212725

>>1212707
>wat?

Yeah.
Then when I was 11 that white shit sprayed everywhere.
I was scared as fuck.
Thought I broke the damned thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:26:50 No.1212714 Report

Quoted By: >>1212716

>>1212692
>What about prostate health?
this is actually really interesting to me. a quick google search finds this.
>Jan. 27, 2009 -- Frequent masturbation in young men is linked to higher risk of early prostate cancer, but it lowers prostate cancer risk for men in their 50s, a study shows. High levels of male sex hormones, or androgens, may increase a man's risk of prostate cancer.Jan 27, 2009

The "High levels of male sex hormones, or androgens, may increase a man's risk of prostate cancer.Jan 27, 2009" bit is particularly interesting. Do you want to lower your male sex hormones or your bodies ability to utalize them? Im not sure the alleged health benifits are even worth the cost by that point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:27:07 No.1212715 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212676
So have sex/fap every 6-7 days for maximum testosterone levels

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:34:52 No.1212716 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212714
>Frequent masturbation in young men is linked to higher risk of early prostate cancer, but it lowers prostate cancer risk for men in their 50s, a study shows.

The second half makes perfect sense.
When you're young and in your sexual prime, your body is producing healthy jizz.
As you age and your body starts to break down, you produce less healthy jizz.
Not much different than a 35+ woman's chances for making a tardbabby skyrocketing, except it takes 20 years longer for men.

Not sure why cleaning the pipes often at a young age would increase cancer risk, but I'm sure some enlightened anon will have a hypothesis soon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:37:33 No.1212717 Report

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nofap begins today, gonna shoot my load in a week

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:39:11 No.1212718 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212669
FPBP

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:40:36 No.1212719 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212668
I recall porn had some negative effects on the brain, masturbation I don't know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:50:07 No.1212720 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212668
Sure it is, don't fap.

When you're like 60 pensioner and your wife is too ugly you'd be thinking to fap cause you have nothing else to do but you can't even get it up or feel anything anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 09:53:25 No.1212721 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212677
the sheer amount of time one would have to spend jerkin the merkin to lose their fucking hair would be multiple hours a day

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:09:03 No.1212722 Report

Quoted By: >>1212723

It's not

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:10:55 No.1212723 Report

Quoted By: >>1212744

>>1212722
A concise shill

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:28:41 No.1212724 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212669
u got it wrong u homo
cumming literally degenerates your body, you lose life energy
you can look at porn as much as you want, there is no negative effect at all
If i dont cum for a week I can stroke it to porn for hours every day (edging without cumming) and literally any woman up into their 50s look sexy to me.
Earlier this year I went for 130 days without cumming and felt great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:30:55 No.1212725 Report

Quoted By: >>1212729

>>1212713
I asked my mother what it was

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:31:43 No.1212726 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212668
Take the cppill lads

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:33:00 No.1212727 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212668
This is a slide thread, no?

And is it degerare, degernate or degerate?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:35:55 No.1212728 Report

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Masturbation is liberation from sexual dependence on women. We all recognise that if we lived in the actual world that tumblr and blogspot cuckolds want, where women lock men in chastity cages are control their releases, that would make us degenerate. Women LITERALLY attempt to control male sexuality all the time, this is why they hate porn.

If I can masturbate to my own fantasy, or to HD porn - I am not going to put up with shit from roasties or ugly women who want to bully me. It's manly to be able to control your sexuality. Being a CHRONIC masturbator might not be great, but masturbation is freedom.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:36:56 No.1212729 Report

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>>1212725
>I asked my mother what it was

I asked your mother what it was, too.
She said, "3 for en sympati fuck".
I told her I only had $1.

That day, I learned how to barter with a gypsy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:36:57 No.1212730 Report

Quoted By:

>live in small town
>get filmed jacking it and posted online
>everyone knows me as a wanker like it's a different sexual orientation
>can't get a date
What should I do /pol/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:37:30 No.1212731 Report

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Anything is degenerate if you overindulge in it, if you're afraid of low T or some other bullshit go to a doctor.

Fap every few days when the urge hits you, avoid doing it out of habit / boredom and you'll be sweet.

Same with pretty much everything, moderation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:37:47 No.1212732 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212668
Masturbation is necessary to avoid becoming a slave to pussy.

You have to do it in moderation like everything else though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:38:34 No.1212733 Report

Quoted By: >>1212738

>>1212676
This is bullshit, "I am a medial student from Helsinki" yea ok, where's the citation and actual medical studies? This is all bro science, from personal experience I did not feel any difference after the first two weeks, I thought it was just because of my body so I waited a month and nothing. There was no sign of "improved life", "more energy", "high testosterone levels", absolutely nothing. Regardless of the many times you fap you will not gain anything unless you change your life style. All this no fap days are benefit for some because of the placebo effect, you are under the impression is working but your body is normal. Unless you have a real problem and you fap more than the average then perhaps you need to fucking stop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:41:48 No.1212734 Report

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>>1212674
This is good though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:44:44 No.1212735 Report

Quoted By: >>1212739

porn is awful
I haven't masturbated in a month though my girlfriend and I have had sex plenty.
No porn in a little over a month. Then last night browsing /pol/ someone posts some broad with huge knockers and all I could think of was watching porn - not jacking it - just browsing porn

the shit is bad for you anons, it'll twist your mind

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:45:17 No.1212736 Report

Quoted By: >>1212739

>>1212683
oh shut the fuck up faggot, everything is degenerate for you, wtf are you doing here then? please tell me again you're some scientific professor at the university of bullshit? protein are molecules they don't just go to your hair or what not it's all equally distributed unless you're taking extra supplements.

>Your body squanders it as it flushes out of your body.

Since when does protein does that? are you taking about amino acids? sodium? toxins?

Excessive fapping is bad because is reduces estrogen, amino acids and most of all testosterone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:48:46 No.1212737 Report

Quoted By: >>1212741

>>1212708
Yeah obviously. But it's not like I have a different girl over every other day

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:51:54 No.1212738 Report

Quoted By: >>1212740

>>1212733
It's because you are a low testosterone japanese.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:53:06 No.1212739 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212735
Does she look like a Bulgarian?

>>1212736
He's chief Sufragette at the Maturbation Temperance Union

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:54:46 No.1212740 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212738
imblying im Jabanese :DDDDDDDD get fucked commie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 10:55:34 No.1212741 Report

Quoted By: >>1212742

>>1212737
>But it's not like I have a different girl over every other day

Why not?
It's only degenerate if you deflower a virgin and don't keep her.
You don't even have to buy dinner for a chick these days; they're happier sucking your cock in a gas station bathroom than making small talk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 11:05:53 No.1212742 Report

Quoted By: >>1212743

>>1212741
Because I'm a fucking autist

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 11:12:45 No.1212743 Report

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>>1212742
>Because I'm a fucking autist

Yeah. Autistic whores don't want to get dicked down.
The worst thing that will happen is she shoves her tongue up your bung without asking first.
Just slap her upside the head.
Or, do nothing, if you're into that sort of thing.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Jun 2017 11:22:50 No.1212744 Report

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>>1212723
>that pic
>mfw it fits me almost perfectly

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Ju0yqGxw Wed 28 Jun 2017 11:30:37 No.1212751 Report

Quoted By: >>1212788

Oh look, another garbage thread from /pol/. Why not send this shit to /trash/ instead?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:gs/pmkka Wed 28 Jun 2017 11:37:38 No.1212788 Report

Quoted By: >>1212805

>>1212751
Why do you think /bant/ was created? The whole purpose of this board was to stop /pol/ from being overrun with shitposts

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ibVUT4wS Wed 28 Jun 2017 11:39:42 No.1212805 Report

Quoted By: >>1212814

>>1212788
Why do you think /trash/ was created?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:sKKGm+O7 Wed 28 Jun 2017 11:40:00 No.1212808 Report

Quoted By: >>1212820

>>1212668
>you can look at porn as much as you want, there is no negative effect at all

You are watching some other guy fuck a girl you desire in front of you and the girl looks you straight into the eyes while moaning "oh God, it feels so good, you are so biiiiiiigggg........"

>no negative effect at all

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:gs/pmkka Wed 28 Jun 2017 11:40:44 No.1212814 Report

Quoted By:

>>1212805
To be the other board's trashcan. /bant/ was created specifically for /pol/

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:gs/pmkka Wed 28 Jun 2017 11:41:19 No.1212820 Report

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>>1212808
That's why I either watch lesbian or solo female porn

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:y6Q8FyzC Wed 28 Jun 2017 11:42:23 No.1212826 Report

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>>1212677

>If you masturbate you will go bald and stay bald forever

I'm more inclined to suggest the hormones and birth control in the water supply is responsible for early on set balding

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:Y9M8dc+Q Wed 28 Jun 2017 11:58:10 No.1212969 Report

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bant was a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:ciRWtTe+ Wed 28 Jun 2017 11:58:59 No.1213124 Report

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Masturbating to 3D is degenerate sure

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