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How many calories do I need to survive?

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:18:02 No.12325511 View View Reply Original Report

My only objective is to protect my cells from DNA damage, and that involves putting my cells in "survival mode". Does anyone here know what's the bare minimum calories I need to survive, with decent musculature and mental dexterity?

Height: 168 cm
Weight: 68 kg
Age: 30

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:19:18 No.12325512 Report

Quoted By: >>12325514

>>12325511
go several days without eating
right before you die, take a tiny bite of food
wait a while
do this forever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:19:42 No.12325513 Report

Quoted By: >>12325515

>>12325511
calculate your basal metabolic rate
https://www.active.com/fitness/calculators/bmr

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:20:55 No.12325514 Report

Quoted By: >>12325574

>>12325512
That's a bit excessive. I wanna be able to hold some musculature as well. Balance is key

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:22:01 No.12325515 Report

Quoted By: >>12325519 >>12325526 >>12325530

>>12325513
Shouldn't I also account energy expense for things like brain function and exercise?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:22:14 No.12325516 Report

Quoted By: >>12325523

>>12325511
>My only objective is to protect my cells from DNA damage, and that involves putting my cells in "survival mode".
That makes zero sense. Your body is better equipped at protecting the DNA when it is getting adequate nutrition

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:22:32 No.12325517 Report

Quoted By: >>12325521

After you me? I have exact same specs. Don't tell me that you wear glasses too

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:22:39 No.12325518 Report

Quoted By: >>12325525

>>12325511
>My only objective is to protect my cells from DNA damage, and that involves putting my cells in "survival mode".
wat?
>bare minimum calories
That depends. You're at an average weight/height ratio now, you could get away with fasting (no food, just electrolyte supplementing) for awhile without major problems if you really wanted to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:23:17 No.12325519 Report

Quoted By: >>12325522

>>12325515
Realistically there is no answer to your question. Caloric needs are highly individual and depend on your level of health, with you requiring more calories the sicker you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:23:58 No.12325520 Report

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>>12325511
Cells are ALWAYS on survival mode. Just give them sufficient resources.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:24:25 No.12325521 Report

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>>12325517
I don't wear glasses, I wear contact lenses, heh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:26:10 No.12325522 Report

Quoted By: >>12325527

>>12325519
As far as I know, perfect. Even my bp is always around 110/70

My diet is 20% animal products, 80% vegetals, no sugars, almost no grain, no inflammatory foods, no GMOs, no MSM, no gluten

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:26:13 No.12325523 Report

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>>12325516
I'm assuming he's talking about autophagy and just massively over-exaggerating the effects of that? There are some studies showing that fasting for a while can boost autophagy which basically "recycles cells" in your body. So technically there's a kernel of truth in there, but calling it "survival mode" and pretending that it "protects cells" is wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:28:08 No.12325524 Report

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I think you can continue your sperm diet, OP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:28:17 No.12325525 Report

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>>12325518
>wat?
When the cells go into survival mode they focus on DNA repair
>you could get away with fasting (no food, just electrolyte supplementing) for awhile without major problems if you really wanted to.
Last time I did a 72 hour fasting was last summer, it's really not something you wanna do too often, cortisol peaks really bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:28:39 No.12325526 Report

Quoted By: >>12325531 >>12325539

>>12325515
you multiply it by the activity factor ,
1.3 is sedentary
1.5 is mod active
1.7 very active

so BMR times activity factor is how much you need roughly

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:28:48 No.12325527 Report

Quoted By: >>12325529 >>12325534

>>12325522
After your next exhale, stop breathing and start counting for how long it takes until you feel the first desire to inhale. It's important that you don't hold your breath for as long as you can, but simply until the first natural urge to continue breathing. This will give a good general idea of your level of health, as it measures the your cellular oxygenation, which is the basis of everything in your physiology.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:29:03 No.12325528 Report

Quoted By: >>12325545

>>12325511
I want to know why you want to do this? Because as someone who is a recovered anorexic these are the exact kinds of questions I used to ask. So what are you really doing, anon? Do you need help? Be honest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:29:26 No.12325529 Report

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>>12325527
Not also that it is after exhale (outbreath) that you start the counting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:30:01 No.12325530 Report

Quoted By: >>12325535

>>12325515
the former isn't an issue for you sir, and i suspect the latter doesn't either

jk gl with weightloss

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:30:14 No.12325531 Report

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>>12325526
and thats to maintain

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:30:16 No.12325532 Report

Quoted By: >>12325537

just juice fast fruit juice only.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:31:47 No.12325533 Report

Quoted By: >>12325536

>>12325511
Individually different. Go by hunger and be honest with yourself. REALLY honest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:34:04 No.12325534 Report

Quoted By: >>12325540

>>12325527
I'm not sure what you mean by that. If you don't hold your breath shouldn't it be around 1 second?

Do you mean how long you can hold your breath without struggling?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:35:55 No.12325535 Report

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>>12325530
I'm within healthy height/weight ratio, what are you talking about? Also some of that weight is musculature, not fats. I do some calisthenics, lifting and hiits

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:37:04 No.12325536 Report

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>>12325533
Like how? As far as I know I can go without food for a week at least, I've a high pain tolerance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:38:07 No.12325537 Report

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>>12325532
I don't have any sugars, that includes fructose, but I do make an exception with low GI fruits like blueberries

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:38:09 No.12325538 Report

Quoted By:

Technically you can survive on potatoes and butter for eternity. Why do you think there are so many Irish?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:39:21 No.12325539 Report

Quoted By:

>>12325526
yeah, I've seen the formula, I'm just skeptical that I need that many cals

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:39:42 No.12325540 Report

Quoted By: >>12325543

>>12325534
>Do you mean how long you can hold your breath without struggling?
Yes. You'll notice your stomach begin to tense up when the struggle begins. Stop counting at this point. If you've just eaten don't do this until you're digested, because your count will be lower.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:39:46 No.12325541 Report

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the Vietcong did it on a fist sized ball of rice every two days

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:40:55 No.12325542 Report

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>>12325511
>Height: 168 cm
are you a woman?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:43:35 No.12325543 Report

Quoted By: >>12325548

>>12325540
Nah it's fine, I don't eat dinner

35s

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:46:08 No.12325544 Report

Quoted By: >>12325547

>>12325511
how you are thinking sounds a bit too spergy
if your goal is to lose weight just go from 3 meals a day to 1.5 and cut out any fast food, sugary food etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:46:45 No.12325545 Report

Quoted By: >>12325549

>>12325528
I'm fine, I want to do this for longevity obviously. To be young (and therefore healthy) for a very long time. Maybe enough time for research to catch up and develop antiaging treatments. There're some promising roadmaps ahead

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:47:14 No.12325546 Report

Quoted By: >>12325553

>>12325511
>Height: 168 cm
hermano...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:47:36 No.12325547 Report

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>>12325544
I don't care about losing weight, I'm within normal parameters

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:48:16 No.12325548 Report

Quoted By: >>12325550

>>12325543
That's not bad. Average modern people score between 10-20s . Medical norm is 40s and optimal health at 60s.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:49:21 No.12325549 Report

Quoted By: >>12325551

>>12325545
>To be young (and therefore healthy) for a very long time
why do you think eating as little as possible keeps you young?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:49:58 No.12325550 Report

Quoted By: >>12325554 >>12325559

>>12325548
Well I'm not sure if I did it right, desu. I can hold much longer, so I'm not too sure on the line you were talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:50:50 No.12325551 Report

Quoted By: >>12325555

>>12325549
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5514430/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:52:02 No.12325552 Report

Quoted By:

>>12325511

Offer yourself as a experiment in some university. They can put you in a glass box and observe your progress

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:52:53 No.12325553 Report

Quoted By:

>>12325546
I consider my height to be optimal. Marginally lesser strain on the system than taller people because I don't need that much energy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:54:08 No.12325554 Report

Quoted By:

>>12325550
Usually people hold too long the first time they try the test. 35s is good for a modern human who isn't doing targeted breathwork.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:54:15 No.12325555 Report

Quoted By: >>12325558

>>12325551
did you google the authors of this paper? a pajeet woman, a black woman, and a potato woman

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:54:43 No.12325556 Report

Quoted By: >>12325560

>>12325511
This should be in /fit. Eat high protien low carb foods. Calories don't mean shit. At least counting calories never really helped me. The body can go a long time without any food at all btw. At least a few weeks depending on how fat you are

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:56:00 No.12325557 Report

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>>12325511
800 kcal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:56:30 No.12325558 Report

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>>12325555
There are more basic articles, it's not exactly something new. Biologists have been restricting calories of guinee pigs to extend their lifespan for ages. As far back as the 70s I think. A fact that's also been proven in chimpanzees.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:58:07 No.12325559 Report

Quoted By: >>12325565

>>12325550
Forgot to say that you should be able to continue breathing normally after the test. you are only testing for how long you can interrupt the breathing cycle with no consequences. if you feel the need to take a larger breathe after the test then you're going too hard, but if not you're doing it right.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 20:59:27 No.12325560 Report

Quoted By: >>12325566

>>12325556
Most of my calories are fats and a few proteins and carbs to help me sleep better. I disagree in that proteins are something to be focused on. Excess protein is never good, because they transform into glycogen anyway, through glycogenesis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:00:01 No.12325561 Report

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>>12325511

YOU ARE ASKING ADVICE FROM GUYS WHO ARE VERY LIKELY MORBIDLY OBESE AND HUNCH BACKED.

JUST EAT "CLEAN". IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE COMPLICATED. STAY AWAY FROM GMO SHIT, EAT LEAN MEATS, FRUITS AND VEGGIES AND BUY THE BEST NON GMO BREAD YOU CAN.
STAY AWAY FROM FAST FOOD (=JEW DEATH) AND SUGARY DRINK SHIT. IF YOU SEE IT ADVERTISED= DON'T BUY IT.

YOU CAN SURVIVE ON SWEET POTATOES + LEAN MEAT AND FISH. DON'T BY HE HYPE AND DON'T FALL FOR JEW TRICKS. IMAGINE YOU WERE A FARMER 100 YEARS AGO: WHAT WOULD YOU EAT? AND EAT LIKE THAT. JUST PRETEND YOU ALWAYS HAD ACCESS TO A FRESH LAKE TO FISH IN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:02:09 No.12325562 Report

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>>12325511
Depends on how much you want to do in a day and also your genetics.
I've come to find that for me it's quite low, I probably only burn ~800kcal a day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:02:26 No.12325563 Report

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>>12325511
Good luck fucking idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:04:05 No.12325564 Report

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>>12325511
Calories do not exist. Think instead of macros, and only eat natural real food. No supplements.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:04:26 No.12325565 Report

Quoted By: >>12325659

>>12325559
Checked, and alright I'll try again with those parameters.

this time it was 1 minute and 10 seconds and I think I could've gone longer. I continued to breathe normally afterwards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:04:49 No.12325566 Report

Quoted By: >>12325567

>>12325560

YOU NEED AT LEAST 80 GRAMS PER DAY UNLESS YOU ARE A ONIONS BIY.

TRUTHFLLY WE HAVE BEEN INUNDTATED WITH JEW MEDIA THAT WE NEED "300 G OF PROTEIN A DAY OR BYE BYE GAINS". I HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THE MAP AND DON'T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 80-100 GRAMS AND 300 GRAMS. LISTEN TO THE EXPERTS WHO SAY YOU NEED ABOUT 80...UNLESS YOU TRAIN 8 HOURS A DAY.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:07:18 No.12325567 Report

Quoted By: >>12325569

>>12325566
I'm well over 80. I eat 3-5 eggs a day, 50 grams of cheese and around 250 grams of salmon or chicken and some nuts. Last meal are some carbs to help get some tryptophan into the brain stem and sleep better. Usually some beans or oatmeal.
That's pretty much all my daily calories

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:08:11 No.12325568 Report

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>>12325511
No idea. Gonna eat half a kilo of pasta with eggs, bacon and creme fraîche. Eat shit, dwarf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:09:08 No.12325569 Report

Quoted By: >>12325570

>>12325567

POST YOUR PIC. I BET YOU STILL LOOK LIKE ABSOLUTE SHIT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:10:23 No.12325570 Report

Quoted By: >>12325573 >>12325577

>>12325569
Typical /fit/tard. Everything's about the looks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:11:52 No.12325571 Report

Quoted By:

>>12325511
800-1000

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:11:56 No.12325572 Report

Quoted By: >>12325578

>>12325511
whats the point of extending your lifespan by denying yourself the joys and tastes of life?
Do you know how miserable it is in senior centers?
Old age is no fun, its better to die before getting too old.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:13:02 No.12325573 Report

Quoted By: >>12325576

>>12325570

IF YOU LOOK LIKE SHIT ON THE OUTSIDE, THE INSIDE IS WORSE FUCK FACE,

250 GRAMS OF MEAT + 50 GRAMS OF CHEESE= YOU ARE BLOATED FAT FUCK. DON'T PRETEND YOU ARE NOT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:13:08 No.12325574 Report

Quoted By: >>12325578

>>12325514
Well then we are unable to give you a number because you just added a couple dozen variables to it just by wanting to hold (and possibly even gain) musculature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:13:58 No.12325575 Report

Quoted By:

>>12325511
all of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:16:38 No.12325576 Report

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>>12325573
I look fine outside, strong upper body. Not gonna post pic tho, deal with it.

>50 grams of cheese and 250 grams of meat
That's nothing, but yea I agree, I should maybe lower it to half. Not the blue cheese tho, I can use the enzymes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:17:23 No.12325577 Report

Quoted By: >>12325581

>>12325570
Maybe because when you’re fit, it affects your appearance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:19:13 No.12325578 Report

Quoted By: >>12325706

>>12325574
Nah, I'm fine. I don't want gains
>>12325572
>the joys and tastes of life
I don't base my life around food. And you're confusing longevity with being old for a long time. Longevity means aging slower, the objective is to extend the healthy life, not old age.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:20:41 No.12325579 Report

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>go to /fit/
>read sticky
You're welcome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:21:02 No.12325580 Report

Quoted By:

>>12325511
>Height: 168 cm
0 calories m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:21:53 No.12325581 Report

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>>12325577
Did you know naturally thin people are more likely to develop non alcoholic fatty liver than fat people? That's because they think because they don't get fat they can eat anything. Aesthetics aren't always faithful markers of health. But I do agree that they generally are.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:w19D8cdN Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:32:57 No.12325659 Report

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>>12325565
Interesting, that puts you in 99% percentile of health in the west

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:nhQRgM/z Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:34:27 No.12325678 Report

Quoted By:

>>12325511
2,279 Calories per Person

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:sdD2OxzG Sat 13 Mar 2021 21:37:00 No.12325706 Report

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>>12325578
but you inevitably also extend old age too this way.
And then deal with the problems that very old age brings with it (loss of eyesight, loss of hearing, loss of memory, joints not working, all friends and family die, loneliness, constipation,....)

And you cant prevent these things no matter how healthy you live now , you will extend the span of old age and will wait to death which will come veeeeeery slow because you thought it was a very good idea.

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