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Ritsu ID:XbISuaVj Sun 30 May 2021 12:59:19 No.12845615 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>12845617 >>12846173 >>12846191 >>12846221 >>12846572

We are just clumps of cells. Free will doesn''t exsist. Awareness is an illusion. Debate.

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Anonymous ID:J8fut15q Sun 30 May 2021 13:00:54 No.12845617 Report

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>>12845615
Ritsu I like how you always say things like this probably to cope with
>it's not my fault I give always up and am such a onahole

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5DlWuOoQ Sun 30 May 2021 13:02:29 No.12845620 Report

Quoted By: >>12845621

Both Free will and Predestination exist hand in hand and do not negate each other.
A Satania poster wouldn't understand such deep metaphysical concepts.

Ritsu

Ritsu ID:XbISuaVj Sun 30 May 2021 13:03:43 No.12845621 Report

Quoted By: >>12845623

>>12845620
Free will and predestination? Only one predestination or several?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5DlWuOoQ Sun 30 May 2021 13:05:09 No.12845623 Report

Quoted By: >>12845624

>>12845621
One.

Ritsu

Ritsu ID:XbISuaVj Sun 30 May 2021 13:06:21 No.12845624 Report

Quoted By: >>12845628 >>12845629

>>12845623
Then there are no choices you are free to choose from wouldn't that mean you don't have free will only the illusion of free will? Then the predetermination is not constant, but variable or else it breaks free will

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:72xbjVai Sun 30 May 2021 13:13:25 No.12845628 Report

Quoted By: >>12845633

>>12845624
A limited number of choices implies it's not absolutely free, but the existence of choices implies that there is not a single already determined outcome for the future.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5DlWuOoQ Sun 30 May 2021 13:15:05 No.12845629 Report

Quoted By: >>12845633

>>12845624
Your Free will shapes predestination and not the other way around. Even though it's called PRE-destination, it doesn't 100% control your choices in the present. There's an element of Randomness in humans that isn't constrained by events or circumstances that you were born into.
This is why humans sometimes do weird shit that is illogical.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:tVDxkGiY Sun 30 May 2021 13:16:03 No.12845632 Report

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>>>/r/antinatalism

Ritsu

Ritsu ID:XbISuaVj Sun 30 May 2021 13:17:25 No.12845633 Report

Quoted By: >>12845962

>>12845628
Well nothing is absolutey free. You roll a dice and you can't roll a 7. We still percieve the outcome as random and it could be anything between 1-6.
>>12845629
If there is an element of randomness in humans then it isn't fully predetermination. I thought you meant predetermiantion has one unchangable future

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5DlWuOoQ Sun 30 May 2021 13:19:24 No.12845962 Report

Quoted By: >>12846176

>>12845633
It has one outcome that is shaped by your freewill.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:0Sn06LZO Sun 30 May 2021 13:20:18 No.12846173 Report

Quoted By: >>12846176

>>12845615
I like you <4

Ritsu

Ritsu ID:XbISuaVj Sun 30 May 2021 13:21:03 No.12846176 Report

Quoted By: >>12846180 >>12846183

>>12845962
Then there is just the past that is unchangable. Because if the present and future can be shaped by your free will there is no certain future. No certain predetermined future because it could change anyhow.
>>12846173
Ok

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:0Sn06LZO Sun 30 May 2021 13:22:50 No.12846180 Report

Quoted By: >>12846182

>>12846176
You aren’t just glumps of cells, you have a name and people who like you

Ritsu

Ritsu ID:XbISuaVj Sun 30 May 2021 13:23:29 No.12846182 Report

Quoted By: >>12846191

>>12846180
People are undeserving cunts.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:5DlWuOoQ Sun 30 May 2021 13:23:40 No.12846183 Report

Quoted By: >>12846189 >>12846198

>>12846176
It is constrained by your choices but if you take a step back and look at the bigger picture, it would appear that you were always destined to make those choices.

Ritsu

Ritsu ID:XbISuaVj Sun 30 May 2021 13:26:39 No.12846189 Report

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>>12846183
Would your past self think he was destined to make your future self choices. When your future self is vastly different from your past self due to experiences and choices in life. If we are destined to choose certain choices then free will isn't real because it would only be an illusion because the choices we made were predetermined were destined to happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:2Lcsodo3 Sun 30 May 2021 13:27:45 No.12846191 Report

Quoted By: >>12846196

>>12845615
based
>>12846182
unbased, being rational doesn't mean you have to be a dick

Ritsu

Ritsu ID:XbISuaVj Sun 30 May 2021 13:28:55 No.12846196 Report

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>>12846191
I'm just being like everyone else.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:72xbjVai Sun 30 May 2021 13:30:15 No.12846198 Report

Quoted By: >>12846289

>>12846183
You could say the tree of choices is determined, but you can't state exactly which path in the tree you'll take before you actually do it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:YPjZ/DDd Sun 30 May 2021 13:46:48 No.12846214 Report

Quoted By: >>12846216

i think therefore I am
there, Ritsu-chan. I destroyed you

Ritsu

Ritsu ID:XbISuaVj Sun 30 May 2021 13:47:48 No.12846216 Report

Quoted By: >>12846218

>>12846214
I was only being ironic with my post. You just prove my true beliefs even further.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:YPjZ/DDd Sun 30 May 2021 13:48:53 No.12846218 Report

Quoted By: >>12846226

>>12846216
explain

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:JuRhLC+j Sun 30 May 2021 13:49:59 No.12846221 Report

Quoted By: >>12846226 >>12846236

>>12845615
yes
nothing matters thats why you should stop caring and enjoy life and make the best of your time here

also OP is a fag, debate THAT

Ritsu

Ritsu ID:XbISuaVj Sun 30 May 2021 13:50:57 No.12846226 Report

Quoted By: >>12846237 >>12846593

>>12846218
I said the things in my original post so people could debate against my statements, which I'm also originally believe are false. In that way I have people debate against me for my true beliefs.
>>12846221
Okay jew! You have the gayest city on earth how about that.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:72xbjVai Sun 30 May 2021 13:58:02 No.12846236 Report

Quoted By: >>12846237

>>12846221
But if everything were determined by God, then it's impossible to enjoy life at will.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:JuRhLC+j Sun 30 May 2021 13:59:10 No.12846237 Report

Quoted By: >>12846241

>>12846226
>Okay jew! You have the gayest city on earth how about that.
>assumes i represent the entirity of jewland
>assumes i live in downtown queer city central, and not a small countryside town
>>12846236
exactly
which is why its not
have fun

Ritsu

Ritsu ID:XbISuaVj Sun 30 May 2021 14:01:22 No.12846241 Report

Quoted By: >>12846247 >>12846264

>>12846237
Well yeah I generalise by you being jewish. Sure you represent jewland. Who cares about individualism when we can represent groups to individuals.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:IkQmWmSi Sun 30 May 2021 14:03:39 No.12846247 Report

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>>12846241
H-hello? Based department?

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Anonymous ID:JuRhLC+j Sun 30 May 2021 14:09:51 No.12846264 Report

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>>12846241
no
thats dumb

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:yrZFCmFt Sun 30 May 2021 14:23:37 No.12846289 Report

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>>12846198
"Something's gonna happen, but we don't know what."
Yes, we don't have free will, but we can't predict it either, so it's meaningless.

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Anonymous ID:/3pQ3P66 Sun 30 May 2021 15:01:10 No.12846572 Report

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>>12845615
wiener

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Anonymous ID:PMQttD1e Sun 30 May 2021 15:11:14 No.12846593 Report

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>>12846226
>Imam of the northern alnurwij caliphate preaches on that إسرائيل has the gayest city on earth.

I shiggy diggy.

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