/bant/ - International/Random » Thread #12876009

[136 / 11 / ?]

7KiB, 217x233, images.jpg

Guitar Artistry II

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 13:55:34 No.12876009 View View Reply Original Report

Why can't blacks or Asians hold a candle to the top 25 white players

See:
https://youtu.be/aMjmjXHJoPg

Or
https://youtu.be/nMjzGqmY7sM

And
https://youtu.be/aA8fzsE7tWU

Again I ask, how did white players get so BASED?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 13:59:49 No.12876010 Report

Quoted By: >>12876018 >>12876034 >>12876037 >>12876044

>>12876009
I don't know, Eddie van Halen was pretty good and he was half asian, does that count?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 14:00:24 No.12876011 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876009
>>>/mu/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 14:02:31 No.12876012 Report

Quoted By: >>12876014 >>12876018 >>12876065

>>12876009
Playing really fast doesn’t always have melody and often lacks soul. People like catchy tunes. It’s why simpler melodic songs are so popular but no one has heard of Yngwie.

Frankly, it’s not that hard compared to many classical violin pieces.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 14:02:48 No.12876013 Report

Quoted By: >>12876015 >>12876097

Tosin Abasi is both a nigger and the best guitar player I've ever heard.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 2.jpg, 271KiB, 668x680

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 14:08:16 No.12876014 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876012
Nobody has heard of Yngwie?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 14:09:37 No.12876015 Report

Quoted By: >>12876023 >>12876046

>>12876013
Tosin isn't in the same league as Vai, Satriani or Yngwie

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 14:21:46 No.12876016 Report

Quoted By: >>12876263

>>12876009
Steve Vai and Tnwie suck, honestly. Just flaunting and no soul. Eric Johnson is way better.
Also, blacks are great at the guitar too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gid7_iRFeYE

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 14:27:06 No.12876017 Report

Quoted By: >>12876018 >>12876022 >>12876035 >>12876051 >>12876055 >>12876080 >>12876101 >>12876124

>>12876009

Isn't Jimi Hendrix considered one of the greatest guitar players o fall time?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 14:43:21 No.12876018 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876010
We'll take it. Asians are pretty much in the club too now.

>>12876012
>Playing really fast doesn’t always have melody and often lacks soul.
Eh I tend to agree. But a lot of the people that are capable of playing fast usually know musical theory quite well and are capable of writing decently composed music. Vai has a few, but go listen to most of anything by Satriani, Eric Johnson or listen to the dixiedregs.

>soul
okay both you and I know thats subjective definition-less bullshit. It has meaning, but nothing that transfers from 1 person to another.

>no one has heard of Yngwie
Maybe shitty zoomers and a chunk of millennials
The 80s was quite a while ago...

>>12876017
Maybe popular, but I would not say greatest. He's just constantly pushed by media etc. He's really just an icon at this point. Nothing more than a image to look at and associate with.

Guitar has just been primarily a white past time.
There's way more white people pro at guitar than probably any other race. Just as there is way more black hip-hop artists than white ones.
But I also think whites tend to rank higher on the dedication scale when it comes to dedication to all activities. They're just willing to put in more time, blood, sweat and tears, compared to others. Obviously Asians rank the highest, with their superpower levels of autistic anal repetitiveness, but there are so few of those its a major disparity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 14:46:38 No.12876019 Report

Quoted By: >>12876021 >>12876025

>>12876009
Nobody has free time like you do. It’s why late boomers and Gen X were the best musicians and others just suck. Nobody had access to all that guitar tabs, guitar magazines and all that just 5 years ago. Internet before being monetized sucked ass in terms of actual things like books and things being online.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 14:48:54 No.12876020 Report

Quoted By: >>12876094

Tim Happa Henson is breddy gud

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 14:50:41 No.12876021 Report

Quoted By: >>12876024

>>12876019
>Nobody has the free time
I'll give you that. But if you want it you make the time.
>Internet before being monetized sucked ass
How old are you kid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:02:54 No.12876022 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihqT1aA4Q88
Tosin Abasi is one of the current major technical players, who uses an 8 string and plays in the prog metal style. He goes to big events and hangs out with John Petrucci and Guthrie Govan etc.

>>12876017
Yes.
All three players from the OP would say Jimi is the legend. Jimi Hendrix died the same day Yngwie first started playing the guitar, which is a story he likes to tell.

Jimi Hendrix is the origin of modern guitar playing because he ventured so far outside of the box. He wasn't as super autism technical as Yngwie or Guthrie, but back then no one was. He played the guitar in a very wild way with a lot of attitude and originality, and he also put on a great show and put a lot of effort into his stage clothes. When you contrast Jimi Hendrix with the other stuff that was around at the time it's no mystery why he bacame such a historic figure to guitar players.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:07:14 No.12876023 Report

Quoted By: >>12876029 >>12876069

tosin, previously mentioned itt, is probably the most technically proficient electric guitarist in the world. I can't speak to classical guitar really. ichika nito is also very good, in tosin's lineage, but he doesn't have anything as ornate as the aal discography since he mostly does short pieces; such is the nature of the instagram era. but in any case it's ridiculous to say this skill is white exclusive, although the guitar is historically a white...ish instrument. comes originally from MENA iirc but modern acoustic mostly developed in the iberian peninsula, and then the electric guitar is here in america ofc

>>12876015
if you're referring to difficulty in execution that's fucking ridiculous. it's also ridiculous from a compositional complexity perspective. just a wildly incorrect take on any level other than strict subjectivity

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:08:19 No.12876024 Report

Quoted By: >>12876026

>>12876021
>you make the time
I don’t mean on a personal level, we used to work 70h a week on average just last decade and still some. We’ve just got that down to 50h a week. Only rich people could afford to do proper music. No space, no garage. Most of us live in commie blocks. You will see more asian musicians since we have spots to fill, yours all taken. Nobody will top Van Halen, etc.
> How old are you kid?
87er. In just about 10 years ago you couldn’t just find stuff on the internet kid. “I want tabs for this song”, “what that pedal he’s using” there was literally no one to ask and forums were so slow. Maybe because I’m just catching up with english language but I still occasionally browsed here and 2ch since its early days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:11:18 No.12876025 Report

Quoted By: >>12876027

>>12876019
What a pathetic whining bitch. You will get exactly what your mindset says you'll get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:15:47 No.12876026 Report

Quoted By: >>12876032 >>12876039

>>12876024
it also seems to me that a lot of asian musicians go in for classical music - kind of for the same reason asians in the us become doctors and what have you, it's a marker of traditional prestige and asians prefer that. which is why there's any number of virtuoso asian violinists and pianists and cellists and so on but not as many guitarists. all the underlying technical potential, and more than your share of discipline, is there - but it tends to be funneled towards traditionally prestigious music rather than very contemporary forms. ichika nito who I mentioned above was a pianist first

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:15:58 No.12876027 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876025
What? wait, I’m not pursuing musicianship? what’s that got to do with whining boomer? I’m just providing socioeconomic perspective to OP’s question.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO editC0011944_1300.jpg, 564KiB, 1400x1701

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:16:01 No.12876028 Report

Quoted By:

Ooo, West-ten man no play Xhi Gon like Vivian, west-ten man got no re-dum . No got pay-chence. Small bwain! Smwall bwain west-ten-ner no play Gim Baw's sim-phone-nee like Vivian can.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO download.jpg, 8KiB, 275x183

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:18:14 No.12876029 Report

Quoted By: >>12876036

>>12876023
Plini is considered by many to be the 'best' up and coming guitarist. Tosin is regarded as being in the top 25 by industry experts.

https://youtu.be/oNFXnFAKqAE

Tosin is on the radar because he's black and a good guitar player. Not because he's a good guitar player.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO He_161a3e_6567083.jpg, 149KiB, 1200x1333

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:18:33 No.12876030 Report

Quoted By: >>12876036

>CTRL-F
>No Julian Bream

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:21:31 No.12876031 Report

Quoted By:

Is django reindheart white?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:22:37 No.12876032 Report

Quoted By: >>12876036

>>12876026
It’s more because classical music and traditional music sectors are gubbermint funded. At least you won’t starve or drive truck just to survive and then drink soju, play guitar every nights. We do have some prominent boomer guitarists but not western people won’t like it. It’s still mostly blues guitarists.

https://youtu.be/W0r7T1gJN6A

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:22:49 No.12876033 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876009
Higher creative intelligence. All things of creative invention are by whites

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:23:44 No.12876034 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876010
he was holland i think or danish

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:24:17 No.12876035 Report

Quoted By: >>12876041 >>12876108 >>12876114

>>12876009
Because most guitar magazine and normie focus on rock music which is mainly white. if you look at jazz it completely another story.
Top jazz guitarist
Django Reindhart > Gypsie
West Montgomery, George Benson,> Nigger
Joe Pass > Italian American
Pat Metheny, Kurt Rosenwinkel, Pat Martino > White
>>12876017
Check and Voodoopilled
every musician I know irl say this nigga is fucking genius including many musician in guitar web forum but only here in /pol where peoples don't give credit to him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:25:07 No.12876036 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876029
at the very apex of skill in craft arguing who's marginally better becomes somewhat irrelevant but you're right, tosin enjoys rather outsize fame for any number of reasons. I don't know in what capacity this song is supposed to demonstrate that plini is strictly better than him, though, it's a nice song although I'm not fond of the djenting (alas, modern guitarcraft) but he's not doing anything beyond what tosin (or any number of instagram guitarists) can do. his loops fit really well into this song though and for the most part the brightness of the piece is way nicer than aal's style of stuff

>>12876030
I don't think a lot of people itt are well learned in classical guitar, I know I'm not

>>12876032
that's interesting, I didn't know that. I could really only speak to asian musicians in america though and we don't really fund classical music here in any meaningful way, but chinese/korean parents will still push their kids to study piano and violin because it's respectable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:25:08 No.12876037 Report

Quoted By: >>12876042

>>12876010
stevie ray vaughn > all others

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:26:42 No.12876038 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876009
Good question. Why dont non huwite like music with high bpm?

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 12175010-lang-lang-1_article_200 (...).jpg, 153KiB, 2000x1387

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:30:06 No.12876039 Report

Quoted By: >>12876041 >>12876076

>>12876026
The first guy I think of when read your post is Lang Lang this chink make white seeth. When I looking for piano method books for my nephew birthday gift, this chink pop-up everywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:30:27 No.12876040 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876009
i went to G3'03 with vai, satch, and yngwie
it was such a great show

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:30:50 No.12876041 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876035
jazz is a very different form and wasn't really a guitarist's form at heart. guitar's always been one of many instruments in jazz whereas it's the point of rock and metal, it is the heart of the form. so you should expect (and indeed we do see) the greatest technical development of the guitar in rock and metal (metal which in many ways is rock in extremis - which is occasionally tonally annoying for those of us who don't like shrieking and growling but is musically interesting in other ways). on the other hand contemporary jazz as it fell out of favor as the popular music of its era has become increasingly intellectualized and it seems to me that the jazz world is most interested these days in ever more elaborate chord structures, experimenting with time signatures, and so on - rock and metal isn't devoid of these intellectual ideas but the bleeding edge isn't as interested in them, we might say
in any case though as the thread's already covered there's plenty of high level nonwhites in rock and metal guitar as well. I think the only reason /pol/ doesn't give jimi what might be his legitimate due, other than that he's black, is because he's way, WAY too popular. probably more than is justified, but history has a way of doing that

>>12876039
god chinese names are funny

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:30:53 No.12876042 Report

Quoted By: >>12876045 >>12876053

>>12876037
So was Vaughn’s “Lenny” a tribute to his wife? His guitar? Or a tribute to the greatest guitar player ever? Lenny Breau? IMHO the latter. Btw this is Vaughn’s best song.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:34:36 No.12876043 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876009
One handed Vai makes me wanna play some sonic 2

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:34:49 No.12876044 Report

Quoted By: >>12876048 >>12876064 >>12876072 >>12876102 >>12876106 >>12876274

>>12876010
Van Halen, along with every other faggot boomer "guitarist", is only good if you have never exposed yourself to technically proficient guitar work since the fucking 1970's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ZrF7taMHA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:35:13 No.12876045 Report

Quoted By: >>12876050

>>12876042
https://youtu.be/i5sqJNFFwqc

Enjoy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:35:27 No.12876046 Report

Quoted By: >>12876061 >>12876283

>>12876015
You're retarded satch vai and yngvie are all generic garbage. Fucking buckethead is better than them.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO B736FCE3-1C95-4CEB-83A4-43E01BE0 (...).jpg, 140KiB, 1024x695

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:36:25 No.12876047 Report

Quoted By: >>12876052

>>12876009
Only white people have divine souls and these guys sell theirs to the devil for worldly abilities. Simple as.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:36:49 No.12876048 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876044
evh, malmsteen, etc were extremely important in developing the instrument and malmsteen in particular was who tosin emulated as a teenager while he was developing his style. advancement is generally iterative, not all at once, there's no need to be harsh to the grandfathers of the modern form

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:37:23 No.12876049 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876009
You've heard of nu-/pol/
But have you heard of /mu/-pol?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:37:35 No.12876050 Report

Quoted By: >>12876056

>>12876045
Technically Vaughn is full of “bad notes” but they are all intentional and all point to where he’s going which is what makes Vaugn’s Blues so good. You know every note that is coming and there it is. The definition of blues.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO capybara-hot-tub.jpg, 69KiB, 736x492

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:38:02 No.12876051 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876017
He did a lot of shit that no one ever did before, most of it involved generating noise rather than music. His fame is based on novelty and dying early. Nothing's better for your career than dying young. Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain...all mediocre talents at best who became icons by dying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:38:20 No.12876052 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876047
Crossroads. Great movie. At least for the music. Everything else sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:38:22 No.12876053 Report

Quoted By: >>12876057 >>12876074

>>12876042
Imo, technical proficiency is not the barometer for good guitar music. Guitar wankery has existed from the days of satriani and vai to tosin abasi, tim henson, and others. The actual content of the music is more important than flashy sweeps and tapping riffs. Take Guthrie Govan for instance, he’s insanely technically proficient yet is tasteful

https://youtu.be/QRMwO08lPuI

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:38:29 No.12876054 Report

Quoted By:

What about that guy from dragonforce

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:39:07 No.12876055 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876017
Well Hendrix is a complete outlier. Saying that, little wing is one of the most soulful songs ever made by a nig

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:39:27 No.12876056 Report

Quoted By: >>12876063

>>12876050
Some of his songs feel perfectly complete though, when he cuts down on the 500 circular licks done at once. Some of his songs genuinely feel perfectly balanced

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:40:07 No.12876057 Report

Quoted By: >>12876060

>>12876053
there's a little too much whimsey in this track for me. the thing is technicality is reasonably objective whereas tastefulness really isn't which is why we can have a discussion of the former that's not just shouting but not so much the latter

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:40:21 No.12876058 Report

Quoted By: >>12876082

>>12876009
I have been playing guitar for 30 years and I know a handful of Vai and Malmsteen and Satriani songs. They are really, really great for learning technique.

As standalone songs though? It's more like ego masturbation. Very technical, very cold, very clinical. Even "the feeling" they try to add comes across as highly technical. "You ever seen vibrato like this?"

They don't even try to "make pleasant sounds", they try to "phrygian dominant where I added a sharp thirteen to throw you off". Ugh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:40:22 No.12876059 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876009
They're great players, but they have no soul.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:41:54 No.12876060 Report

Quoted By: >>12876062

>>12876057
I suppose that’s true as well, I’m mostly talking about people liking an artist simply because of their mechanical skill on guitar, which makes them more akin to a guitar operator than player. But shredding and musicality are not mutually exclusive, as some blues dad boomers love to claim

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:42:25 No.12876061 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876046
I like Buckethead

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:43:26 No.12876062 Report

Quoted By: >>12876071

>>12876060
yeah exactly it's kind of a cope for people whose favorite guitarists don't have that skill, although an entirely unnecessary one. there is certainly a lot of technical work that is SHEER wankery of course but I think even a lot of the artists of that sort of thing would acknowledge when that's what they're doing

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:43:32 No.12876063 Report

Quoted By: >>12876067 >>12876071

>>12876056
That’s my point. From a “technically proficient” standpoint Vaughn is full of bad notes. But they are all intentional. Off key bends and stuff. But those tones are both predictable to the listenener and point to phrases yet to come and those notes are the “harbinger” or the premonition of the next phrase that help one to “know” the notes to come before they are played. The definition of Blues. This is how blues suck you in. You become part of what you are hearing. You get to participate even though you can’t carry a tune in a bucket.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:43:54 No.12876064 Report

Quoted By: >>12876066

>>12876044
I have the upmost respect and simultaneous disdain for players like this. They're amazing at what they do but then rely on instrumentation while handicapping their natural skill. The idea that when you're really good you have to add more strings is such a meme, most of these guys would be absolute savages on something like a tenor guitar for lead which lends better to their tapping style, but opt for optics instead and maybe a handful of easier to play notes(not that they would have difficulty adjusting. Look at someone like Travis Barker who while they play a lot of trash is an extremely gifted technical drummer, and look at what he can do on a 5 piece, sometimes less is really more and forces you to start pushing your technique again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:45:18 No.12876065 Report

Quoted By: >>12876075

>>12876012
>Frankly, it’s not that hard compared to many classical violin pieces.

You are a fucking dumbass that doesn't know shit about music. If you did, you would know that someone like Yngwie is playing the equivalent of those hard classical pieces you are referencing. Stupid dumb fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:45:35 No.12876066 Report

Quoted By: >>12876073

>>12876064
If you want someone who does everything perfectly and still sounds good, Stephen Bennet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:46:42 No.12876067 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876063
> “technically proficient” standpoint Vaughn is full of bad notes.
that perspective is misleading. his bad notes are bad from an ionian scale (and derivatives thereof) perspective, but that's got nothing to do with technicality

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:47:21 No.12876068 Report

Quoted By:

I'm a metal head but dabbled in Jazz to learn, and this guy knows nothing of theory and blew my mind and nobody has heard of him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyCocJ5KLf4

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:48:43 No.12876069 Report

Quoted By: >>12876083

>>12876023
>tosin, previously mentioned itt, is probably the most technically proficient electric guitarist in the world. I can't speak to classical guitar really.

Yeah, you can't speak to classical or jazz because you don't know shit about music.

Also, every single one of these players https://jtcguitar.com/ is better than tosin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:48:56 No.12876070 Report

Quoted By:

While Africans were designing humanity & DNA strands, white people were plucking on some sticks making noises.

absolute savages

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:49:52 No.12876071 Report

Quoted By: >>12876078 >>12876083

>>12876062
>>12876063
What do you guys think of this style? It’s improv btw. Contrapuntal music on guitar is something I haven’t been able to wrap my head around despite practicing a bit

https://youtu.be/zDuee6blvj8

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:51:30 No.12876072 Report

Quoted By: >>12876079

>>12876044
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ZrF7taMHA [Embed]

Nigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:51:56 No.12876073 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876066
https://youtu.be/hDNQP7zS6Ho

Enjoy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:52:06 No.12876074 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUI2mjMGFM4

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:52:26 No.12876075 Report

Quoted By: >>12876085

>>12876065
He's not saying they're not hard to play, dipshit, and he's right about the violin part. Playing violin is infinitely harder than guitar.
>t. guitarist and pianist

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:53:31 No.12876076 Report

Quoted By: >>12876110

>>12876039

valentina is better than lang imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:53:38 No.12876077 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6nrglujp1U
Suffocation and other blacks in death metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6inVxYTalE
Tony Macalpine with the godly Jeff Loomis

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:54:27 No.12876078 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876071
Ted Greene is a genius. I have a couple of his books that I would use back in the day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:54:27 No.12876079 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876072
I, too, own a “shredder” guitar. I never play it anymore. It was a fad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:54:57 No.12876080 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876017

jimi hendrix is to guitar as bruce lee is to martial arts, take from that what you will.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:55:18 No.12876081 Report

Quoted By: >>12876086

>>12876009
Daita can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:55:21 No.12876082 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876058
exactly, when someone say I'm too superficial to understand Vai I always said I don't mind to be normies but I'm prefer band like dream theater than souless god-tier technique Vai.
In jazz we tension like b9, #13 because we want to create tension and find the way to make release to make it more pleasure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:55:32 No.12876083 Report

Quoted By: >>12876087 >>12876098

>>12876069
there's no better way to shill your courses than to be a presumptuous asshole. if you knew shit about music I'm sure you could state your case with something resembling lucidity but until then eat a bag of dicks

>>12876071
it's beautiful, a lot of the technique I work on in my spare time involves simplified versions of this. most classical guitar and much of what guys like ichika nito do is predicated on these concepts. if you break down what he's doing you'll generally find that the bass line isn't actually all that complicated and he's very often
using single drone tones to underpin the melody. once you see the tricks of what he's doing it'll get easier
if you're playing in standard tuning, I recommend using chords in the scale of E, on the high strings, and occasionally using your D A and low E strings as drones to start getting basic versions of this effect. it feels very satisfying when playing alone, far more fun for me than shredding

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:56:06 No.12876084 Report

Quoted By:

not a single person in this thread has mentioned alan holdsworth, you utter fucking plebs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:56:26 No.12876085 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876075
That's not what he said you dumb fucking nigger shit. You don't know shit about guitar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:57:42 No.12876086 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876081
Japanese guitarists are based.
https://youtu.be/cJ_yRA9yj0g

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:57:58 No.12876087 Report

Quoted By: >>12876088

>>12876083
Those guitar players on that site know their shit way more than the monkey that plays exercises as music. Sorry you are a dumb piece of no nothing shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:58:21 No.12876088 Report

Quoted By: >>12876091

>>12876087
I feel bad for them that they've got you as their spokesman

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:58:31 No.12876089 Report

Quoted By:

Nothing proves race less meaningful than guitar...there are mindblowing guitarists across the globe, in every nation. there is no "best" guitarist; only the top 1%, and it is inhabited by people of all races and colors, uniting in badassery.

Not political. Not worthy. Fuck OP.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO g3byoudvzuo41.jpg, 117KiB, 1200x773

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:58:36 No.12876090 Report

Quoted By:

>Blacks can't play guitar
*blocks your path*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUjOfsoBhMY

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 15:59:42 No.12876091 Report

Quoted By: >>12876093

>>12876088
I feel bad for you that you think you know anything about guitar or music but come to an anon website and look like a try hard faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:00:41 No.12876092 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876009
I actively listen to Tim Henson almost every day because the music is good.
I don’t listen to any of the boomers you just posted because I don’t want to listen to someone just because they are talented.
Guitar transcends race or skill, it’s all about soul. I think it’s something that takes several lifetimes and if someone has soul on guitar, they’ve been playing it in their past life too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:01:00 No.12876093 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876091
I like talking about music with other people who have similar interests and varying levels of knowledge, which seems to me a reasonably prosocial activity. you apparently like shrieking incoherently at anonymous forum users about the superiority of your niche knowledge without elucidating any of that knowledge, which seems autistic and misanthropic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:01:22 No.12876094 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876020
Love me some Polyphia, especially their earlier shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:02:28 No.12876095 Report

Quoted By:

Ichika is phenomenal.

There are an abundance of Japanese guitar players that Americans are ignorant of due to the language barrier.

The guitarist in Casiopea is absolutely perfect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:02:41 No.12876096 Report

Quoted By: >>12876121

>>12876009
Guitar is kind of a nigger instrument when you think about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:02:44 No.12876097 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876013
Nuno bettencourt is portguese and the best ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:04:26 No.12876098 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876083
I’ll give it a shot, thank you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:05:09 No.12876099 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876009

>>Asians can't play guitar

lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4bAs8vfcSE&ab_channel=HaeChanParkHaeChanPark

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:06:56 No.12876100 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876009
Sithu Aye is some kind of Asian and Scottish mutt and he is incredibly based.

https://youtu.be/R77d7B9HBiA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:07:15 No.12876101 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876017
Hes one of my favorites and i love his musical writing, i felt his lyrics seems shoe horned in at times, on a technical level hes just a decent r&b player, but he approached it in a way no one had before and all the guitarists OP is jerking off would be nowhere without his pathmaking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:07:37 No.12876102 Report

Quoted By: >>12876104

>>12876044
sounds gay and that's just an 8 string bass so it doesn't count

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:10:03 No.12876103 Report

Quoted By: >>12876109 >>12876118

>>12876009
>https://youtu.be/aMjmjXHJoPg
>masonic logo
its all so tiresome...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:10:35 No.12876104 Report

Quoted By: >>12876111

>>12876102
what're you on about, all the melody is on tosin's guitar, that's not bass

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 20210604_111037.jpg, 277KiB, 1080x1547

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:11:28 No.12876105 Report

Quoted By: >>12876107

Sup I see you strummers need a drummer, ready to jam??

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:11:38 No.12876106 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876044

fuckin shit music. get some taste, homo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:12:26 No.12876107 Report

Quoted By: >>12876109 >>12876112 >>12876118

>>12876105
>another masonic/lucifarian logo
its all so tiresome..

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:12:48 No.12876108 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876035
I love wes montgomery so chill fluent, i met george benson and sat with him and played a few minutes at a gathering, hes great and i learned a lot to practice in those few minutes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:13:13 No.12876109 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876103
>>12876107
dude it's metal music they're not hiding this stuff, that's been an intentional part of the aesthetic for as long as metal's existed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:13:54 No.12876110 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876076
I also think this chink is overhype but it's good to see more and more asians enter to world class level because it's my complex my dad always say you can't be world class musician so don't waste your time on music and focus on study.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:14:24 No.12876111 Report

Quoted By: >>12876113

>>12876104
t. Musiclet who likes “complicated” writing to assuage his insecurities about not being a musician

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:15:35 No.12876112 Report

Quoted By: >>12876115 >>12876126

>>12876107
It is neither of those. It is Heremeticism and prominent in Thelemic circles as well. Broaden your language.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:15:58 No.12876113 Report

Quoted By: >>12876116

>>12876111
a lot of my favorite music is very mechanically simple but one of the topics of the thread is sheer technicality, which is another conversation entirely
and I'm literally surrounded by guitars in the room I'm sitting in. come off it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:16:12 No.12876114 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876035
Gary Moore > Potatonigger

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:17:45 No.12876115 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876112
Thelema being created by Crowley, a 33rd degree mason...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:17:55 No.12876116 Report

Quoted By: >>12876120

>>12876113
>I own instruments
Right but you aren’t a musician lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:18:18 No.12876117 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876009
>retarded zoomer that learns everything from youtube

multi-instrumentalist > low IQ nigger guitar player

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:18:49 No.12876118 Report

Quoted By: >>12876130

>>12876103
>>12876107
>Thinking a triangle or any shape is inherently evil.

You fucking retarded leafs are tiresome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:19:25 No.12876119 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876009
Music is subjective don't drag it into your delusions of race.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:19:37 No.12876120 Report

Quoted By: >>12876122

>>12876116
in the last year I've composed, recorded and produced about two dozen pieces of original music, some of them mastered too. it's not my day job though

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:19:40 No.12876121 Report

Quoted By: >>12876127

>>12876096
Unironically this, it’s basically a drum with strings and a fretted fingerboard

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:22:13 No.12876122 Report

Quoted By: >>12876125

>>12876120
>mastered
You shouldn’t master your own work you dumb nigger
>record and produced
>produced
The word you’re looking for is “mixed” you fucking posturing retard.
>composed original songs
Literal 8 year olds do this.
>not my day job
Gee I wonder why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:23:48 No.12876123 Report

Quoted By:

>https://youtu.be/aMjmjXHJoPg
sounds like somebody who spent a lot of time playing with Zappa

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:24:10 No.12876124 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876017
He is. He was a great musician beside being a God guitarist. The melodies and solos he pulls of live is untouched to this day imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:24:59 No.12876125 Report

Quoted By: >>12876128

>>12876122
there's no reason not to master your own work. there's any number of free software products that you are more than fit for purpose, I don't know why you'd take pride in not knowing how to do it. does suggest to me that I'm certainly a more complete musician than you are, in any case

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:26:33 No.12876126 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876112
I know what hermeticism is faggot. It's where "gender" being a spectrum came from. It's all lucifer worship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:26:34 No.12876127 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876121
No. That’s a banjo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:27:41 No.12876128 Report

Quoted By: >>12876129 >>12876131

>>12876125
There is every reason not to, you will never hear your work objectively enough to master it and will ALWAYS benefit from a second set of ears. The fact you disagree merely signifies your lack of understanding and respect for the process. You clearly just did it yourself as a meaningless feather in your cap. You’re emotionally stunted and insecure, just as I suggested earlier.
>not knowing how to do it
I literally get paid to do it and would never master my own work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:28:52 No.12876129 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876128
>You can't solo master music

you're a dumb nigger and people literally get paid big bucks mastering music by themselves. exposed dumb nigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:30:04 No.12876130 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876118
Sneed sells feed and seed, which is completely normal. Chuck, on the other hand, sells fuck and suck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:30:05 No.12876131 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876128
doing it myself doesn't mean I'm refusing outside input, but it's true that I mostly did it so that I'd understand how to. but I'm anonymous on the internet, I'm not feathering my own cap, I'm learning things because I enjoy learning them. I have no idea why this makes you seethe, but it strikes me as the height of projection for an alleged professional musician to call a hobbyist emotionally stunted because he enjoys talking about music online

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:x3Z9GwQK Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:34:03 No.12876263 Report

Quoted By: >>12876267

>>12876016
>Just flaunting and no soul
BS. What is soul? who made you the arbiter of soul? VAI is incredibly passionate about his music and literally puts his heart and soul into it - just cuz you cant relate doesnt mean he is soulless...

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:iAciMKhb Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:35:29 No.12876267 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876263
yeah one of the things that made me appreciate vai was like a year or so ago he came out with a piece where he was exploring techniques he'd never used before, just because of curiosity. I don't think you do that without having a true passion for what you're doing, and even if that doesn't come out in the depths of composition it at least manifests in the way you perform

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO EVHDestroy.jpg, 156KiB, 700x715

Anonymous ID:x3Z9GwQK Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:37:05 No.12876274 Report

Quoted By: >>12876282

>>12876044
>only good
>technically proficient

full on retard take. EVH was extremely technically profficient- ground breaking for his time...but he ALSO wrote killer riffs, amazing songs and had the art of soloing down better than just about anybody- his solos were always concise and drove the song forward. There is a reason EVH sold 10s of millions of records and Tosin couldnt sell shoebox.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:iAciMKhb Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:38:34 No.12876282 Report

Quoted By: >>12876298

>>12876274
that's not really fair. metal was a mainstream form when evh got big. by the time tosin was alive it was a niche form again since the broader culture (and the people who construct it...) had moved on

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:x3Z9GwQK Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:38:38 No.12876283 Report

Quoted By: >>12876294

>>12876046
>vai
>generic
full on retard take. VAI is the most electic, wierd guitarist out there....his music is anything but "generic".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiuw8TVMgPg

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:NIbNtNTt Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:41:58 No.12876294 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876283
Steve Vai plays Polish Folk Music

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:x3Z9GwQK Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:42:22 No.12876298 Report

Quoted By: >>12876300

>>12876282
sure its fair. the orginal comment said people only thing EVH was good because they hadnt heard Tosin yet- which is retarded. EVJ was brilliant for all the reasons I mentioned.

And metal wasnt that big in 1978 when VH came out.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:iAciMKhb Fri 04 Jun 2021 16:43:52 No.12876300 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876298
well yeah that take was stupid too I said so at the time. I'm just saying the generational comparison is disingenuous on both ends. tosin couldn't have existed without evh, but evh couldn't have been as big as he was if he hadn't ridden a musical zeitgeist that simply couldn't be allowed to exist anymore (although he was rather a vanguard of that zeitgeist, that's fair)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:0dbJUMts Fri 04 Jun 2021 22:14:10 No.12879233 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876009
kot

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nigeOl+4 Sat 05 Jun 2021 02:31:35 No.12880854 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876009

Sxe with bulgogi

Sxe with bulgogi ID:MeQvyZ9M Sat 05 Jun 2021 02:58:02 No.12880962 Report

Quoted By:

Im top 4th in the world at playing guitar.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oxZ8Hlmx Sat 05 Jun 2021 14:35:07 No.12883479 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876009

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:k61dyNK9 Sat 05 Jun 2021 15:14:09 No.12884375 Report

Quoted By:

>>12876009

Capcode	All Only User Posts Only Verified Posts Only Moderator Posts Only Manager Posts Only Admin Posts Only Developer Posts Only Founder Posts
Show Posts	All Only With Images Only Without Images Only Spoiler Images Only Non-Spoiler Images
Deleted Posts	All Only Deleted Posts Only Non-Deleted Posts
Ghost Posts	All Only Ghost Posts Only Non-Ghost Posts
Post Type	All Only Sticky Threads Only Opening Posts Only Reply Posts
Results	All Grouped By Threads
Order	Latest Posts First Oldest Posts First

On these archives

Your latest searches

Guitar Artistry II